On Asking Smokers Not To

How far should people go out of their way to accommodate people with unusually delicate health? Should I ask everyone around me if they have a peanut allergy before I eat a peanut butter sandwich?

Funny-when you post like that I can almost hear the voice of Homer Simpson, Overact much?

Do most smokers actually know what they smell like? The smell from the cigarette is only one part of it-the smell is in your breath, your clothes, your skin, the walls of the room you smoke in, the upholstery of the vehicle you drive, the clothes of those close to you, the books you read…hell, the list goes on and on and on. With some of you it smells as if you pulled your clothes from a burning building, rinsed them off and wore them.

So? As far as I can tell, MOST people don’t know what they smell like, because the majority of them are not exactly springtime fresh.

MOST people haven’t had their sense of smell and taste deadened by inhaling smoke for years on end. I can take a bath and wash my clothes if I smell a bit-it’s going to take a lot more than that to stop a smoker from smelling like last week’s fire sale.

No, but you should ask before you walk up to them and rub the peanut butter sandwich all over their face. Again; smoking is a special case because it fills the air and affects other people directly.

The smell of smoke is also eliminated by bathing and washing clothes. Thing is, smokers smoke every day. And sweaters sweat every day, and people who wear too much perfume wear too much perfume every day. Everybody smells, until they bathe and wash their clothes, and then they don’t smell for a little while until they start doing whatever it is they do each day that makes them smell.

Seriously, there’s nothing magical about cigarette smoke. Really.

Then you do not understand how bad smoke damage can get.

If someone had walked up to her and blown clues of smoke in her face then your analogy might have some merit.

Or you have some weird sorta paranormal olfactory ability. Can you point out which female coworkers are menstruating? Do you sometimes sniff at the air and foretell rain?

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If smoke didn’t move away from smokers, yours might have merit. Mine is closer.

Funny how every smoker claims to be a considerate smoker.

I’d say that smoking at the Blackjack table inside a casino was pretty fucking rude to begin with.

I don’t smoke now, but I used to. So I rarely ask someone outside not to smoke. There would certainly have to be an obvious sign and children present before I would say anything.

That’s because I don’t think you young folks realize how much territory smokers have given up. When I was in college (I was a smoker then) we could smoke in class. We smoked at teacher workshops and at any restaurant or bar. No need to ask for the smoking section. We even smoked in theaters. And the doors of cars front and back were equipped with ashtrays.

The only time that things were really unpleasant was on my first job. In a room of fifteen people, I think twelve of us smoked. There were no windows. Even in church college the dorm rooms had ashtrays.

And ashtrays were a favortie Christmas or birthday gift. Most living rooms were equiped with a little ashtray on a stand. People would compete with each other to have the most chic table lighter and cigarette box. Cigarette holders themselves were a fashion item. Remember Holly Golightly’s long one in Breakfast at Tiffanys?

So if there is no sign around and the smoker is outside, you take your life into your own hands asking the smoker to move. Smokers are not the only ones who might want to be a little more considerate.

Actually, the smell of smoke is eliminated from CLOTHES by washing. A smoker’s body, however, is infused with the smell and taste of smoke, and that smell and taste won’t go away unless the smoker hasn’t smoked for at least a couple of weeks. Smoking some tobacco will intensify the smell and taste, but that smell and taste is THERE if you’re a smoker, no matter how recently and thoroughly you’ve bathed.

Similarly, if a room has had smoke in it on a regular basis, the smell will seep into the walls and furnishings. In some cases the items can be cleaned (curtains washed, etc.) but in other cases there’s no hope for it.

When I began seeing a new dentist, one of the things I asked was whether he or any of his staff that would work closely with me were sensitive to scent. While everyone insisted that they didn’t have any sensitivity, I decided not to wear scent when I had a dental appointment anyway. I enjoy wearing scent, and I apply it very lightly…but not everyone loves Opium as much as I do. I’ve always avoided wearing scent when I have a doctor’s appointment, because sometimes a disease gives off a certain smell, and I certainly don’t want to mask any symptom any more than I would with proper bathing. I recognize that my soap and shampoo and conditioner do have some scent, but I don’t buy stuff that has extra scent in it.

I too have been a vegetarian for 16 years (since age 12, with much resistance from my family and knowing not a single other vegetarian–believe me, I’m no fan of meat) and I hate the smell of meat cooking and also hate perfume and most other scents (incense, fabric softener, almost anything). But cigarette smoke is totally different. No other scent that I’ve encountered lingers as much and they don’t give me headaches at all or nearly as easily (depending on the scent), they don’t make my throat hurt, and they don’t make my eyes water.

My dad used to be a smoker and just from staying at his house, I would smell like smoke to the point where people would point it out, even though he never smoked in the same room as me. In my experience that is never the case with other common smells. He cooked meat too, but I never left the house smelling like meat. So I really think cigarette smoke is different. The smell is irritating, but it’s especially irritating because it’s not JUST a smell.

She walked into it so no, you’re not closer.

Not even close actually.

Bullshit.

True.

One could say the same about people who drink, or eat red meat. Again, there’s nothing magical about smoke as opposed to other stinky things, no matter how hysterically people insist otherwise.

You smokers can believe that you smell of fresh cut roses after you shower all you want…but I know better. My grandfather was a chain smoker. Hell, my HUSBAND was a smoker. He’d step out of the shower, and I’d kiss him…and I could taste the smoke on his flesh. Not just his mouth, but everywhere else, too. Smokers are not just depositing the smoke on their bodies, they are INGESTING it, and it becomes part of their bodies. A very few smokers seem to not develop a smoky smell (don’t know about taste, I wasn’t on kissing terms with these people). It’s pretty well accepted that certain dietary habits will change a person’s smell, why is it so hard to accept that putting other substances in the body will also change that body’s smell?

If you’re speaking to me, perhaps you can explain what part of my post yours addresses?