I agree that it’s clearly the case that female-on-male domestic abuse is a serious issue, and almost certainly one that is under-discussed in today’s society. But framing that as “anyone who even talks about it is going to be attacked by the elites” or anything like that just makes you sound paranoid.
So can you be a bit more clear about what precisely you’re implying? In what context did you raise that issue, and what personal attacks were you subjected to? Or alternatively, in what context would you have raised that issue were it not for the personal attacks you expected?
Beyond domestic violence, which we can all agree is unacceptable no matter the gender, what specific discrimination against men have you yourself experienced?
A criminal defense lawyer is a professional who helps mostly men. He/she also witnesses discrimination against men: 63% longer in most cases, much much longer in Domestic Violence cases.
A Defense Attorney lives through hundreds of such cases, and yet he/she is neither a criminal nor a loser.
Men who are assaulted by intimates are actually more likely to call the police, more likely to press charges, and less likely to drop them (Ferrante, Morgan, Indermaur, &
Harding, 1996; Rouse, Breen, & Howell, 1988; Schwartz, 1987)
So the people who are trying to silence “us” are doing a pretty bad job.
Anyway, sorry to interrupt you with facts. Carry on.
Fortunately in the age of Social Networks more and more men and some women realize that the male victims of intimate partner terrorism suffer severe discrimination.
In general, men are more aggressive than are women (for a summary of this research, see Kimmel, 2000). In fact, violence is the only behavioral variable for which there are intractable and overwhelmingly skewed results showing gender differences. …In their path-breaking work, The Psychology of Sex Differences, Maccoby and Jacklin (1974) found that violence exhibits the greatest gender variation; 20 years later, an analysis by Baron and Richardson (1994) found the same thing. So we would have to ask why women would hit men inside the house in roughly equal numbers but almost never commit violence toward men—or women—outside the home.
That is what you say. No one except you is saying that.
But more and more men and some women are realizing that too many men suffer both abuse and discrimination.
Acknowledging male victims of female abusers is in no way taking away from female victims.
I understand that female perpetrators of partner and child abuse will find any discussion of this topic deeply offensive – thus I sincerely apologize to any woman offended by my discourse.
More women than men suffer abuse. Significantly more. And more of them die. Significantly more.
But you have a point to make, so you don’t care about that.
And hey, it’s bad that men are abused. But acting like it’s a bigger problem than abused women is factually wrong.
Cool. So why are you bringing it up on a thread about feminism?
Are we giving examples of bad parenting?
On Tuesday in Denver District Court the father of the four boys, 67-year-old Wayne Sperling, was sentenced to five years in prison for keeping his sons in a tiny Denver apartment covered in layers of cat and human feces. Decomposing animals were found near the squalid mattress the four boys shared.
None of the boys — ages 2, 4, 5 and 6 at the time — could speak or recognize their names when they were removed from the apartment in September 2013. They didn’t know how to eat a sandwich or recognize an apple as food, said Deputy District Attorney Anita Drasan.
Tell you what, you keep bringing up stories of abusive lesbian parents and I’ll keep bringing up stories of abusive fathers and we’ll see who runs out of stories first.
Being a Mathematics PhD, I know that you would never want to misrepresent data that is reported by the CDC study which your linked article references, saying (in part) the following:
Why poison the well with introducing child abuse? Are you really so desperate to jack up your numbers?
I have seen the same argument many times since 1996. I do not know what percent of Intimate Partner Violence victims are male.
Possibly among victims of Intimate Partner Violence men are not the majority but a significant minority. But male victims still do not deserve the discrimination they suffer.
It was a sincere apology to anyone offended by the fact that I am talking about male victims of Intimate Partner Violence.
You should try reading the paper I linked to, which goes through the evidence. If you actually cared, that is.
Is that anything like the discrimination that women report when they report rape? Like, for example, having MRA types track down their identifying information and sending them death threats and calling them whores and gold-diggers?
And, this discrimination that men suffer. Is it by other men, perhaps? Is it almost entirely by other men?
Oh, and why is this topic relevant to a discussion of feminism?
And, if you want to know what percentage of suffers of intimate violence are men, why haven’t you bothered to read the paper summarizing the evidence?