On the closing of the Omegaman thread

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[QUOTE=duffer]
Omegaman, come here and sit a spell. Away from the rest of these people. Just you and me. OK, we’re alone now.

Listen, dude, something is up with you. I’m not a shrink but I’ve got some heavy-duty life shit happening now myself. I can see shades of my anger in the posts you’re making. I won’t ask you for details, it isn’t any of my business. My best wishes to you and your family.
And to the rest of the pile-on-ers (how the hell is that supposed to be spelled?) lay the fuck off. It’s like watching the neighborhood bully poking a stick at a wounded puppy. Some of you make me ashamed to be a member here.
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Thanks my freind, I appreciate your kind words. Dont be to concerned ,though I put away all the anger in my life not to long ago . Now I concentrate on doing good thinks to help people when I can . The reason we are here is Love not hate and anger . If it apears I’m angry I’ll try to work on that. Up til this point in my life I have conducted myself mostly through my voice and in person so I’ll take your advice and try harder to make a better impression here. The way that I speak here is how I really am so please don’t think I’m a wounded puppy. Overmore , I used to be the bully . I am so lucky to have found a woman who could look past the ugly hard man I am on the outside to kind and gentle human I am on the inside. It wasn’t always so though. Like everyone I’ve done things to others in my life I can only pray that I can attone for . I know my sins are forgiven but I must try to do the very best I can to treat others with respect and like human beings. Everyone deserves respect as a human being don’t you think ? When I first joined this board i kind of went along with everyone else in the hate and bashing that goes on here. But after time i saw it for what it was the same hate and bashing i used to do in real life so i had to stop that post haste. Being on this board is the opportunity to learn so much about things which I know very little. Peace be with you.

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]
Troll, no, off his prescription meds or on non-prescreption meds, quite possibly.
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No, I’m not off meds. I think the people use meds maybe a little too much . If you need them great . But I don’t think everyone does, Do you ?

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[QUOTE=Harborwolf]
I can’t answer for the backpedalling, though I will say I don’t like it. If you make the troll call, stick to it. Throwing in a different call serves only to muddy the waters. Trolling doesn’t seem that far of a stretch to me. Omegaman did little to answer direct questions and seemed in my opinion to be interested in fanning the thread along, or rambling wildly off topic.

And how is it “clearly not the case”? I’m not going to argue either way as I have my opinion (stated above) and others have their own, but all we have to go on is a posters word as to whether or not they are trolling. Since few ever admit it in a clear cut fashion, I think that stating “Omegaman is clearly not a troll” is every bit as foolish as stating “Omegaman is clearly a troll.”
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I’m with you , my friend . If you say something like that to me in real life you need to be prepared to step up toe to toe and let your body do the talking . I realize it’s not real life but still, If you can say whatever you want why is it only SOME people can but not others ?

And thanks for sharing your opinion . Fanning the thread along ? That’s a good one.

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[QUOTE=Zoe]
RedFury, I just don’t get people who taunt those that they believe are “basketcases.” That doesn’t even sound like you. What’s up?

Are we going to exclude posts by “nutters” now or just ridiculing those with a “problem”? As I have explained before, I have been disabled by mental illness since 1989. I take a whole bunch of medications for it. As a result of either the illness or the medications, I sometimes have trouble concentrating, remembering what I’ve posted and writing coherently. (And in rereading some of my posts, I see that I get carried away.)

I’m already aware that some of my beliefs and experiences are scoffed at and misunderstood.

If a moderator (while acting as a moderator) is going to be ridiculing or excluding “nutters” rather than addressing the actual problems with the thread itself, I would like a heads up.

Closing the thread was an unnecessary intrusion. It stomped on the spirit of the Dope.

Thanks DTC.

Sure, I’ll pray for you, Omegaman. In the meantime, I wish you stillness and peace of mind.
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Thanks Zoe for the prayers . Iv’e seen your work here . A good heart in the least.

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]
It reminded me of a movie called Sexy Beast. It’s about a retired mobster who lives in Spain and it seemed like that’s where Redfury is from .
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Interesting you mention that movie, Omegaman, because now when I read your posts, I can’t stop picturing you as Don Logan.

No idea if you’re anything close to that in real life, but in my mind’s eye it seems to fit perfectly.

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[QUOTE=Zoe]
RedFury, I just don’t get people who taunt those that they believe are “basketcases.” That doesn’t even sound like you. What’s up?
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Not taunting as much as expressing the obvious.

I’ve read quite a few of your posts and while I might disagree with any number of them, it is not due to their incoherence. Besides, in times when other people have asked you to clarify your point/s, I believe you’ve managed to do so quite aptly as opposed to this “open pocket, pit satan” bullshit.

How do you address the problem “in the actual thread”? Is there something akin to BB therapy? And is it applicable to a rambling train-wreck of a thread where what the OP was getting in spades was simply more abuse. Doubt that’s helpful for whatever condition he has – or even if he doesn’t have one at all.

A mercy killing, IMO, was the best any mod here could have done for him – and did.

Never knew the “spirit of the Dope” was to ramble incoherently against some demon or another.

Which evil demon do you propose we Pit next? Plenty choose from as I am sure you are well aware.

Not bad, Vinyl. But don’t quit your day job. I easily reach room-temperature numbers.

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People have been falling over themselves trying to justify why the thread was closed… he was accused of being a troll, plain and simple, and most people disagree.

Mercy killing my ass. It wasn’t. And if it was, then what did it acomplish exactly, since that thread has spilled over into this one? . Omegaman may seem batshit crazy, but that’s interesting. I don’t agree with anything he says, but I like him. He is not mentally ill, for fuck’s sake. What condescending bullshit.

So the new, revised problem is that the thread was going nowhere, and was completely detatched from the OP?

Fine. If that’s so fucking important, I propose a thread is started in MPSIMS, named Purposefully Pointless Thread Featuring Omegaman, That Will Deviate From OP, Obssesive Compulsive Labelers Beware!

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[QUOTE=RedFury]
Not taunting as much as expressing the obvious.

I’ve read quite a few of your posts and while I might disagree with any number of them, it is not due to their incoherence. Besides, in times when other people have asked you to clarify your point/s, I believe you’ve managed to do so quite aptly as opposed to this “open pocket, pit satan” bullshit.

How do you address the problem “in the actual thread”? Is there something akin to BB therapy? And is it applicable to a rambling train-wreck of a thread where what the OP was getting in spades was simply more abuse. Doubt that’s helpful for whatever condition he has – or even if he doesn’t have one at all.

A mercy killing, IMO, was the best any mod here could have done for him – and did.

Never knew the “spirit of the Dope” was to ramble incoherently against some demon or another.

Which evil demon do you propose we Pit next? Plenty choose from as I am sure you are well aware.

Not bad, Vinyl. But don’t quit your day job. I easily reach room-temperature numbers.
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I’m glad to see your in a better mood today my friend. You seemed very aggitated to say the least. Please feel free to believe as you wish but I think you should also respect my right to do so . You think I’m full of shit ? Well thats just fine with me friend. You strike me as the sort I’ve had many encounters with in the past and I’m sure you know just what I’m speaking of . We’ll just say you’re still here (on this world )and so am I . I’m not saying that either of us is the better man but that were both men and we know what that’s all about, now don’t we ? So If you chose to be insulted be my beliefs or me implying that were a 007 type than that’s just fine with me. I have no desire to visit you, sir but feel free if you ever get down to the Las Vegas, Nevada area to look me up .I’m sure the type of gentleman who can afford “house hands” should have no problem locating a man of my meager means and stature. O, and by the way , I too am in my 40’s and by my reckoning ,my life is at least half if not three quarters of the way over so if we were to per chance happen accross one another , somewhere down the line, I’m sure it would be a wonderful and glorious day for us both . In life and as men.

Well as per our previous conversation I understand you don’t have business to attend to per say, perhaps the running of your estate and I will let you get to it as I need to go and aquire some accounts for the business I work for , so I won’t waste any more of your time.

Good day to you , Sir.

p.s. I wouldn’t let the comments the other gents are making at your expense cause you much concern. You know how men are . Always poking fun, but not always in a hateful way.

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[QUOTE=Shodan]
Which tends to contradict fluiddruid’s claim that she doesn’t care about a thread’s content
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Er, what I said was that the content of the thread (i.e. the topic) was not the reason for closure; I moderate neither on a pro-Christian nor an anti-Christian basis. It was not religious censorship, as has been accused.

Of course to some degree the content is involved. How would it not be?

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
Because of the reason given for closing it. And the fact that countless other seemingly pointless threads trundle on unlocked. This one, for example. Yet this one is locked after 7 posts. Because to her it made no sense.
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Believe it or not, I don’t stay at my computer 24 hours a day. I was tempted to close the “Sad lot” thread, but, by the time I had gotten to it, there were a number of substantial postings and I didn’t want to crush the discussion that had already gotten underway. (I’m in the middle of moving, with long stints away from the boards.)

Nonetheless, closing threads with “contentless OPs” has hardly been a policy that started with my tenure. If you disagree with it, fine, but please don’t expect the impossible; moderating is always a set of judgement calls and our time is limited. Sometimes threads that should be more heavily moderated just aren’t because of real life constraints.

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For the rest of you I am still speaking with management about the closed thread. I am encountering dogged resistance but I will do what ever it takes to get this issue resolved. Some people think that can say and do whatever they want with no reckoning to be had. Well as we all know everyone answers to a higher authority . That includes everyone so until I hear from that last person I will endeavor to persevere. For those of you you think I’m crazy or “off the meds” consider this . Do you think people who use cyrstals and such to heal sickness are crazy ? I may not believe it but if it works for them and does’nt affect me or you, what harm is there ? I don’t go around judging people and although you will do as you wish I suggest you don’t judge people either. That’s why we as a race of people living on this world can’t get along with each other . Now you know I didn’t pull that little sentiment out of thin air , don’t you ? I’m sure you know where I got it from. I didn’t make it up but I believe it with all my heart and will continue to do so until I draw my very last breath. I have business to attend to so Peace be with You, my friends.

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Back in the good old days, whimsical threads in the pit were left to run, sometimes. ThaiStick or something like that and the “I burning your dog”? Stuff like that. Seems like the board didn’t have such a stick in its butt over stream of consciousness threads in the past. Now everybody is so damn touchy, even in the pit.

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]
Believe it or not, I don’t stay at my computer 24 hours a day. I was tempted to close the “Sad lot” thread, but, by the time I had gotten to it, there were a number of substantial postings and I didn’t want to crush the discussion that had already gotten underway. (I’m in the middle of moving, with long stints away from the boards.)

Nonetheless, closing threads with “contentless OPs” has hardly been a policy that started with my tenure. If you disagree with it, fine, but please don’t expect the impossible; moderating is always a set of judgement calls and our time is limited. Sometimes threads that should be more heavily moderated just aren’t because of real life constraints.
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Don’t let these people second guess your every move. Even if I or they don’t agree with your decisions they need to recognize your authority. It’s like arguing with a police officer. I personaly don’t do it . If I have a problem with it I take it to court. What goes on here is not as serious as real life but I hope you get my point. It seems to me that some of the other mods don’t respond to criticisum but it says alot for your character as a human being that you do. I just wouldn’t let it bother you a whole lot . Somebody will always be unhappy. Such is life. these are only words on a screen for the most part.It’s not like your depriving somebody of food or shelter. Just my 2 cents , Maam.

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[QUOTE=Liberal]
Hopefully, you’ll read the new one before commenting, since you didn’t read the other one. I wasn’t having a talk with Dio since I never posted in it.
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I did read the other thread but in going back and forth between that and this I confused the participants. My bad. Save your snark.

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[QUOTE=Duke of Rat]
Back in the good old days, whimsical threads in the pit were left to run, sometimes. ThaiStick or something like that and the “I burning your dog”? Stuff like that. Seems like the board didn’t have such a stick in its butt over stream of consciousness threads in the past. Now everybody is so damn touchy, even in the pit.
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He did the same thing on FC! That ThaiStick!

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[QUOTE=DudleyGarrett]
He did the same thing on FC! That ThaiStick!
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Just passing by the computer on the way out. You seem like a real man to me and I sure like your user name. If I had had a male child I would have named him either Wyatt or Garrett. Keep the good comments coming my freind. Thier in limited supply around here as of late.

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[QUOTE=Hung Mung]
I did read the other thread but in going back and forth between that and this I confused the participants. My bad. Save your snark.
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My snark? Save your carelessness. When you use me wrongly just to make your points, I reserve the right to snark.

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<Brian>I’ll be out on the porch since you are already up on the cross</Brian>

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I got mixed up on which thread was which. I admit my error and I sincerely apologize for putting you out. I think a “Hung, I didn’t post in that thread,” would have been sufficient.

My point was that the conversation you and Dio were having (whose place I mistook) could have happened in an entirely new thread. In fact, any of the discussion taking place in the closed thread could happen in a new thread away from the quick fingers of fluiddruid. I don’t see why a new discussion couldn’t have been opened in another forum with moderators you favor more.

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]
For those of you you think I’m crazy or “off the meds” consider this . Do you think people who use cyrstals and such to heal sickness are crazy ?
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Yes. Next question.