I’m glad I kept reading. I was about to post the same thing.
I have many more choices than that. Have you had a chance to peruse the RIAA data that I linked to? Do you have any interest in a discourse on how those figures relate to a couple of your assertions?
Now see, that is a whole lot better.
Actually, I did. Good link, thanks. I did look around yesterday for some reason couldn’t find that – and it is exactly what I was looking for.
People over 45 comprise of both baby-boomers and the elderly, and they’re at 25.5%. But here’s the problem, this category counts for nearly 30 years of the consumer’s life if you take average life expectancy statistics into account. The other seven age groups represent 4 years each, totally 28 years. And BECAUSE they broke it down in such manner, one can only deduce that their target market is predominately aimed at those under 45. Those age groups total 74.6%.
The fact that the “boomers and older” crowd constitute a huge segment of the population was exactly half of Liberal’s point, the other half being that this large cohort has money. I’m not willing to claim that I know who the music industry is targeting. I do know who is buying, and boomers are definitely buying. Here’s one of the things you said:
That statement is clearly wrong and appears to have been based on no knowledge of the subject. Is that reasonable enough for you? You also said:
As of 2005, downloads were minuscule. I’m sure they’ve grown since, but I doubt if they’ve surpassed hard copy sales. As for your statement about where recording artists money comes from, you might want to do a little thinking and reading about that one too. There are plenty of wealthy artists who tour rarely or never. Perhaps you might deign to research this and provide us all with some information instead of unsupported assertions. That would be reasonable.
There you go again. Can you not help yourself?
If you continued reading, I wrote:
Where did I say anything about “touring?” I was speaking on corporate sponsorships.
Also, you’ll see here that by mid-year 2006, digital units to retail eclipsed physical units.
I can help myself. I could have called you a fuckwit. I refrained, then. Your statement was wrong. You haven’t admitted it.
I introduced the term touring and didn’t claim that you had. You made a bald and still unsupported assertion that CD sales were a “very, very small percentage of an artist’s revene (sic) generation.” I’m pretty sure that’s not true. Touring is one possible component of a musician’s revenue stream.
Did you read the chart you linked to? Total physical sales in 2006 were ten times digital sales: total physical sales were 4.066 billion dollars, total digital sales were 417 million dollars. I think it is quite reasonable to say that you don’t know what you are talking about, and that you aren’t even capable of processing information on the subject.
And for those reading along, here is a link that works. DudleyGarrett put a stray ‘/’ at the end of his that made it fail in my browser.
Actually, the whole quote was
If you don’t take the quote out of context, it’s clearly asking, who buys the American Idol recordings? As a baby boomer myself, I sure doubt it’s me and mine. Unless you can come up with some data that says that baby boomers are the ones buying * American Idol * alumni artists, I’m going to have to make my own considered judgement as to which of you is the dumbfuck. (Actually, I made that decision long ago, but this reinforces it.)
We’re talking about total units sold. Because something costs more it doesn’t matter. The fact is that digital music has sold more than physical. An analogy supporting your argument is this: Car A costs $250,000. Car B costs $$2,500. Car A has sold 2 units. Car B has sold 100. More people are buying Car A because it has made more money. Do you understand how wrong you are?
I don’t think you’re grasping the fucking argument, to be honest, instead you’re more concerned with throwing barbs than having a debate. I certainly don’t have time to argue with a child.
Your argument is difficult to grasp, because it is shapeless, lacks facts, and changes frequently. You said boomers don’t buy records. They do. You said “iTunes makes more money for the recording industry than CD sales.” Physical outsold digital 4 billion to 400 million. You have now come back claiming it’s all about units, not dollars, and that digital units eclipsed physical units. To make that true, you need to somehow believe that a digital single song is directly comparable to a physical CD album of songs. It is directly comparable, actually, but a factor of ten or so would have to be introduced to make the equation make any sense.
Do you grasp that argument? You said “makes more money”, not “sells more units.” Sorry to cloud things up with your actual words.
Right. Like any pseudoscientist, you frame data to match your preconceived notion. See Crotalus for an example of intellectual honesty that you should emulate.
Regarding DudleyGarrett, she, he, or it made two separate claims in that post: (1) that AI caters to a young crowd based on winners’ sales and (2) that boomers don’t buy records. The first claim is wrong on its face, as her own link shows. There is no evidence that any of them, especially numbers 2 through 10, is unattractive to Boomers. And the second claim has been proved wrong to a fare-thee-well.
As to which of us is the dumbfuck, I’d say picking a fight with SkipMagic in a Cafe Society thread, ordering him to close threads, and blustering about like it owns the place is pretty dumb. I’ll take your disagreement with me on that matter as a default.
Also, I have clearly pointed out to you that boomers are NOT the overwhelming majority of people who buy music, by your own damn link. In fact, they only constitute 25.5% of all sales, and not only that, and as Liberal so eloquently pointed out, a good portion of those sales are for grandchildren. So who is the music made for? Certainly boomer grandparents aren’t buying Tony Bennett records for their grandchildren.
The statistics are skewed by the way the data is broken down. You didn’t comment on that, of course, because you were found to be dead fucking wrong.
So basically we have is this:
Boomers don’t buy the most music, and digital music has sold more units.
Go ahead, throw your faeces.
How many keyboards do you break a month?
For this to be valid, the units in question must be the same units. They are not; CDs contain a dozen or more singles, which are the “units” sold digitally. You have been proven resoundingly, overwhelmingly, definitively wrong on this point. Now shut up and eat your feces.
Hey, Finagle, who do you think made the Taylor Hicks album go platinum? I don’t know, of course, but he doesn’t look to me like a teen idol. I suspect that his sales are to an older audience, decrepit types like you and me, but probably female.
DudleyGarrett, please review our forum rules before posting. We do not allow you to misquote other posters within quote boxes. Do not do this again.
Then how about nearly every time I get quoted by Liberal and her minions, it is almost always quoted out of context? Why is that acceptable?
You are still comparing apples to hand grenades. You argument is without any basis whatsoever.
It is clear you lack any honest debating skills, and should therefore be treated like the feces eater that you are. Slurp them turds, rectum-breath.
“Rectum-breath?” Come on.
You are right; it should have been Rectum Breath. I stand corrected.