Once Upon A Time [edited title]

I have trouble spotting newish characters as their counterparts for some reason. Have we seen August or Dr Whale in HEAL, or Peter in Storybrooke?

:dubious: I don’t think we’re going to be seeing Peter in Storybrooke. His encounter with the wolf in HEAL appeared to be… conclusive.

I wonder what the rules are for that. Prince Charming died in HEAL but I guess he still had enough of a spark left that the spell brought him over in a coma.

I don’t think Charming was dead when the curse took effect, he was just injured and knocked out. If Regina had the power to reanimate the dead, I’m sure she would have saved her (hinted at) True Love or brought her father back. We’ve not seen her father in Storybrook.

I looked at the IMDB and the actors we’ve seen in both HEAL and Storybrook have a slash “/” after their character names, but neither August nor Dr Whale have them. So perhaps they have not yet been named in HEAL. I think Dr. Whale will show up in HEAL eventually, but I do not think August (Motorcycle guy) is a part of HEAL (just me making a guess).

RIP Kathryn. According to her mugshot background, Snow White is 5’7"? I always thought she looked shorter. Obviously we know Regina framed Mary-Margaret and now Emma has begun to believe. Who is Booth and why does he know what Storybrooke really is? Why is Rumple so against the queen? He was considered evil in HEAL and the town folks don’t like him, but he’s very sympathetic. At worst he’s chaotic neutral.

Yeah…as soon as I saw Jesse Hatch as Peter I decided he’d be dead by the end of the episode. Can I call 'em or what? Too bad, though, I really like him.
Can someone explain what was going on at the end of last night’s episode? Rumpelstiltskin had a… hair? that he was pleased to add to a collection. And then the door to Snow’s cell was open…were these supposed to be related? It looked like one of Emma’s hairs, but that’d mean that Gold had somehow returned to HEAL, and doing whatever he was there led to Snow’s cell being empty, which we haven’t seen anyone do before. I think I missed something along the way, and that I have to be off base.

Rumple took one of Snow’s hairs when he gave her his forgetting potion. He got one of Charming’s hairs of the cloak. He combined them in a bottle to get love, the only kind of magic he didn’t already have.

Mary-Margaret found a skeleton key in her cell. It was probably planted by the queen to tempt her. Emma told her “mom” to have faith in her as Emma had faith in her. But after David didn’t have faith in her after the evidence pointed in her direction even though Mary-Margaret had kept faith in him when the evidence pointed his way, she didn’t trust Emma, so she escaped.

Thanks. I think I need to rewatch the last ten minutes on Hulu, since I was obviously not paying enough attention.

Right - and don’t forget what he said earlier -

“If you can bottle love - you can do anything”
As far as his battle with the Queen - the episode with Belle made that pretty clear - they have been enemies but mostly stalemated against each other - She tried to undo him with Belle - he plans to undo her with Emma.

All magic comes at a price !

Have the rest of the dwarves been seen in Storybrook? I find it strange that the one Doctor the town seems to have isn’t Doc.

Sleepy was/is the night watchman at the hospital
Sneezy runs the mini-mart
Grumpy is the hospital custodian
Pretty sure that was Happy with Sneezy at the diner on Miners day.
Stealthy was killed saving Snow White from King George - well, attempting to anyway.
So far no Doc (cause clearly, Doc is not the doc), bashful or Dopey.

I’m really tired of Mary-Margaret bailing every time things get tough with David. I understand that David’s doubt hurt her, but it seems like she’s just so willing to dump their relationship at the drop of a hat.

StG

I’m guessing a good part of that is part of the StoryBrooke implanted memories -

Possibly, but my guess is that it was planted by Mr. Gold when he spent time in the cell.

I’m sure we’ll find out one way or the other later. It has to be one of them. We know the Mayor has skeleton keys, we don’t know if Gold does. We also know the Mayor had motive and opportunity. Gold had opportunity, but we don’t know of a motive except maybe “investing in her future.”

I imagine the moment they live happily ever after is the moment the curse is broken. I think they will be off-again, on-again for the duration of the series.

Things in Storybrooke are starting to get exciting, and I’m curious finally to find out how (in HEAL) Charming and Snow White go from personae non gratae to the accepted monarchs of (I assume?) George’s kingdom. A few random thoughts:

  • The Disney jokes pile up! The opening with Snow White humming a song, luring a bird to a finger, and then — whack. Not a brilliantly original joke, granted, but I wasn’t expecting it and thus I must give it kudos.

  • I don’t mean this as a criticism of the show, but does anyone else find it odd that the dwarves aren’t dwarfs? By which I mean not, you know, dwarfish.

  • Did I miss something, or did James’s cloak go from on the floor behind him to on the table in front of Rumplestiltskin in the blink of an eye?

  • I had a feeling Kathryn was dead. But where’d she go, such that Regina obtained her heart?

Gold had opportunity and possibly even motive, but unless remarkably prescient he couldn’t have known that Mary Margaret would end up in the cell. Beyond that I just don’t see how breaking out of jail serves Mary Margaret’s interests whatsoever. Of course he may’ve placed the key for another reason (say as an escape hatch if he ended up jailed again), but nevertheless I’m leaning towards Regina having placed the key as a trap. It occurs to me that another possible “culprit” here is Booth, who knew about Regina’s skeleton key — although he’d have had to sneak into the cell somehow.

That’s possible, likely even, but I hope it’s not the case. If the producers string out that relationship too long the tension will evaporate; by the middle of season two we’ll be rolling our eyes and wishing they’d just get on with it. Surely someone could think up some plausible solution that doesn’t involve breaking the curse.

I actually hope they put that story on the backburner -let them ‘find’ the love naturally and lets move on to some other stories - but I like the fact that Hopper was able to lift the veil abit on Charming, even if it did confuse him. (What, he cant tell that there was a difference in hair length?)

as for teh cloak - charming took it off and put it on the table directly -

As for the key - I got nothing for how it got there.

It’s not clear that they are. Do we have any information that King George is dead and Charming is King? At the wedding of the Cinderella couple, it seemed the men were both princes, not kings.

Given that Snow is only slightly taller than the dwarves and 5’7" in her mug shot (I totally missed that. Thanks, Invisible Chimp!) which is a bit tall for a woman, but nowhere near dwarf-like for a man. I’m guessing that dwarves only need to be dwarfish in that they work in mines, have no women, and are badly dressed.

Maybe. Remember Snow bailed on Charming/True Love twice in HEAL. Once to save him from king George’s wrath and again when she took the potion. If she did not believe in True Love when she was in HEAL (where it was commonly accepted as a real thing) how could she believe in True Love in Storybrooke?

While I’m leaning toward the key being planted by Regina, there is also a possibility that Henry planted the key. We know he had possession of them, and he also likes to hang out at the police station with Emma. And he believes that Regina is framing Mary Margaret, so he may have planted the key to help Mary Margaret.