It was perfectly clear what you meant, and that’s the whole problem.
Let’s face it, Sarcasm, you have a long history of this sort of thing. You constantly belittle other people’s religious or spiritual beliefs. You sneer. You snark. You assert your own imagined superiority. You openly admit"I’ve been begging you assholes for years for a proper pitting"
So, when you say that God is a fictional character, you are clearly making an attack on every single person in the world with any religious belief at all. That is entirely consistent with your years-long pattern of misbehaviour. It was a nasty little bit of snark, and you were begging for a pitting again.
Too many moderators have allowed you to get away with it in the past. I applaud **Twickster **for slapping you on the wrist.
And in practice, moderating such comments, even though I agree they are lame, irrelevant and probably sometimes made provocatively, will generate more noise and upset than just letting them slide.
IF they blossom into a pissing match, that should be moderated.
I disagree wholeheartedly. Not moderating those comments fosters an environment where it’s OK to make them.
Should we allow misogynistic comments as long as no one complains? How about homophobic comments? Both are also examples of denigrating a select group of people.
If someone in that thread has said “an intelligent woman” or “a sane conservative” or other example that’s clearly inflammatory should it slide unless someone speaks up about it?
Nonsense. In the context of a CS thread on fictional characters it’s clearly a dig at religious people. It’s one step short of calling them stupid.
If it were IMHO and someone stated that they don’t think god exists that’s an entirely different situation. Throwing out God in that CS thread is clearly insulting on at least some level and serves no purpose other than allowing the poster to stroke his ego and show how much smarter he is than those theist fools who believe in fairy tales.
I’ll agree with that. I listen to (for mocking purposes only. I find their conspiracy theories weirdly fascinating) a lot of birther types and with one exception they’re all Amercian.
I’ve got to disagree again. It’s not “favoritism towards theists” in my opinion, it’s not allowing hot-button topics to be bomb-thrown into otherwise benign threads. “Jezus is fictional! LOLZ!” is absolutely fine for a GD topic. “Let’s discuss the Bible as a work of fiction” is perfectly ok for a CS topic*. Dropping the stinkbomb “Gawd is fictional!” in a “Most popular fictional character” thread simply isn’t. And not because of theists. Because of bomb-throwing.
IMO, anyone who says that’s pro-theist is overreacting, since I can think of at least 5 or 6 other non-religious answers that wouldn’t be appropriate in that thread for the same “no bomb-throwing” reason.
*Disclaimer: I am not a mod. Should a mod disagree with this, they’re right, I’m wrong. Following my advice could get you warned, banned or shot.
Fenris, to me, it’s like those same people who always drag out the same old wornout “I gave up Catholicism for Lent! yuk yuk yuk!” every freaking spring when someone has a thread about giving things up for Lent. It’s so old there have been disclaimers that say, don’t bother, it’s old, we get it. And someone STILL has to has to post it, because hey, “ha ha, stupid Catholics!” C’mon.
What? How on earth was that Pit-worthy? Snarky, but no more than many comments around here.
Except he didn’t really “attack” him – or at least, insult him. He simply pointed out how, “hey, you have a history of this kind of behavior, and it’s starting to really piss people off.” And that Czarcasm is being deliberately obtuse when he says otherwise.
With all due respect, you guys are seriously losing it.
I agree with Peter Morris that it’s obvious what Czarcasm meant (anti-religious snark where it wasn’t on-topic), that he has a long history of this sort of thing, that he’s not particularly subtle about belittling other people’s religious beliefs in fairly nasty ways, and that he’s admitted to posting in a way that begs to be pitted. His post was an attack. His post was a “nasty bit of snark”. His post was begging for a pitting. And twixter was right to warn him for it, because it’s jerky.
If you think expressing any of this is worthy of a warning for me, I think you should probably explain why, because I think a lot of people won’t understand.
So is the normal, earnest worldview of atheists offensive in other contexts, or just this one?
This thread started off about avoidance of hijacks and threadshitting -and (although IMO, the cure is worse than the disease), that’s a fair concern. You’re now talking about trying to protect theists from mean ol’ atheists; that’s a different animal.
Atheism is not analogous to homophobia or misogyny. It is not treated in a similar way to those things anywhere else on the board, as far as I know.
Expecting the moderators to gag atheists because they’re vaguely implying something mean (nevermind that it’s off topic) will achieve one thing: it will make it possible to characterise theists as whiny, spineless pussies, hiding behind big brother. I don’t want that.
It’s only a bomb because people bite. Once they’ve shot their bolt, they’re out - if they come back and labour the point; “no, really guys, Jesus is like fake - didn’t you hear me?”, it starts to be a problem. I’m all for moderating problems - I just think that to try to nip them all in the bud this way would be pointless, labour-intensive, and premature.
Not at all. I said in my post that it’s perfectly acceptable to express an atheist viewpoint.
It’s not acceptable to make it a threadshit and it should be called out when it is.
