Opinions About Roseburg, Oregon

Anyone live there? Near there? Used to live there? What do you think of the place? Upsides? Downsides? Meh-sides?

I live in Oregon, but I know nothing about Roseburg except it seems like a pleasant enough little town when I drive through it coming and going. I know the basics: Timber town, population around 22,000, leans conservative, rains and has some snow, a river runs through it, there’s a community college where there was a shooting in 2015. There’s a Costco, a Home Depot, a WalMart and a Lowe’s. Looks like a nice farmers’ market.

My parents are casting about for a retirement area that’s closer to me. I suggested Roseburg on the strength of what I know – but I don’t really know much!

Any help from the Dopers?

It’s pretty solidly working class and somewhat depressed since the main industry in town was lumber. Tends conservative, lotta Trump signage, many churches. Also lots of people hovering on the edge of poverty and a pretty good tweeker population. So, basically, same as most Oregon towns that aren’t around Portland and Eugene. Terrain is a lot of oaks and grassland, oaks are having a hard time with diseases that have migrated north. Umpqua river corridor is amazingly beautiful and I suspect a lot of Roseburg’s income is from tourism and traffic going up to Crater Lake. There are worse places.

I have family down that way but not in that town. Pretty area, you don’t say where you’re from but probably more humid if you’re in Portland and colder in winter. Lots of people retire over there, especially from California.

Some of those places down there have reputations for meth problems. In the grand scheme of things I don’t know if it’s that bad, just FYI.

SmartAleq, thanks for the information re the tweakers. Sadly, there’s hardly a town in the country that doesn’t have that challenge these days.

I couldn’t live there due to its Trumpian nature, but for my parents, it’s a feature, not a bug. Although coming from Southern California, they may be surprised at what living in a hard core Trump area is really like. :dubious:

Heartbreaking about the oaks.

thelurkinghorror, I’m rural near Eugene. Much more suitable to my own political compass. If I ever moved to a town, I’d head toward Corvallis. (Go Beavs!)

I think my parents will appreciate the somewhat drier climate there. They’ve lived in Idaho and Utah, so no strangers to snow. I think they will be ok with the weather.

Thanks to you both for the information!

Semi-Trumpian, rather. They’ve lived in Idaho and Utah, so unless they never left SLC or Boise neighborhoods, they’re at least used to some of that.

I live in a desert and found southern Oregon to be unbearably humid in the summer, Bend is more my speed. And a nicely purple area, which is my preference.

Well, it should be mentioned that they’ve been in California continuously for the past nearly 40 years. They’ve lived under the influence of coastal humidity for all that time, and there was no ‘Trumpian’ when they lived in Idaho and Utah. I’m actually somewhat relieved to learn Roseburg is a destination for retiring Californians – which is exactly what they are.

They were giving Prescott, AZ a serious look. I couldn’t believe that, especially for two people who hate the wind.

More-or-less lifelong Roseburg resident here. There’s at least one other regular Doper that lives here as well and judging from SmartAleq’s post there may be more than just us two. :slight_smile:

I’m having a very hard time judging the “drier climate” comments made above. We get lots of rain here—lots and lots of rain. This winter has been particularly dry, but this is far outside the norm. Last time I looked we average about 30 inches of precip per year, almost all of that rain between November and June. Snow is quite rare. I’ve never felt the summers to be humid, but maybe I’m just used to it.

Roseburg is more than “semi-Trumpian.” It is a very conservative place—after the 2015 school shooting Obama came to visit the survivors. There was a rather large street protest when he arrived, with people waving confederate flags and big signs suggesting he move back to Kenya. At least one of the county commissioners openly and publicly supported these people.

The economy is depressed and while it’s a lot better than it was a few years ago jobs are still less than plentiful. The economy hasn’t been timber-based in many years. I work at the local community college helping adults with job-search skills, and right now the biggest employer is the VA. A good chunk of the population works in healthcare or customer service. Douglas County is quickly running out of money and the county commissioners have publicly stated that soon the only thing they’ll be able to keep running is the courts and the sheriff department. The entire county library system shut down last year after residents chose not to pass a bond that would help keep them open, which has already had a noticeable effect on the community.

A lot of younger people have trouble finding work, although drug use that legalization of marijuana has a lot to do with that as well.

Trying to think about this from the perspective of a retiree, I’d say there are some significant negatives, the two principal one being a) essentially no public transit (and especially for things like wheelchair pick-ups for dr. appointments) and more significantly b), there’s only one hospital and it has a quite deserved reputation for being rather shitty. While there are a few medical specialists a lot of patients have to travel to Eugene or Medford for specialized medical care. There’s a VA hospital here but it also sucks—a scandal of theirs regarding failure to treat patients recently made the New York Times. The few retirement homes / nursing homes are also of quite poor quality (and please believe me when I tell you the healthcare services here truly do suck as I speak from experience). The upside is it’s probably easier to live here on a fixed income, especially if one has secure housing.

There is a positive to living here, namely the outdoor recreation opportunities. One is never more than hour and half away from… well, pretty much anything you’d want to do. The Pacific Ocean is an hour to the west, the North Umpqua provides fishing and hiking and whitewater rafting, and pretty much everyone hunts. There’s mountain climbing in the cascades and even some spelunking opportunities town near Tule Lake.

Personally I’d rather retire in the heart of a big city and not a jerkwater town where it rains 8 months out of the year, there’s no real theater, the most diverse grocery store is Safeway, Red Robin is considered haute cuisine, and the only hospital within 75 miles sucks. But that’s just me.

Has the traffic improved? We went through coming from Crater Lake the summer before last and the construction was insane! :eek: And I’m used to Seattle traffic!

The Shari’s on I-5 was pretty nice for that kind of food. We have a few up here, but they haven’t been remodeled since they were built, probably in the nineties.

Lancia, thank you very much for the detailed, unvarnished, voice-of-experience account of living in Roseburg. This is exactly the information I was hoping for. To be frank, I doubt the wonderful outdoor living opportunities will outweigh proximity to decent medical care for my parents. My dad is 86, my stepmom is 70. They’re both in good health (now), but each has suffered serious medical issues that make health care availability a top concern. They also say they hate the rain. But they also hate the wind, hate the snow and days that are too hot. They’ve been entirely spoiled by their many years in the climate of Southern California.

Thank you again for taking the time to provide an excellent summary of living in Roseburg. I’ve moved on to pushing Harrisburg. :wink:

Helena330, I was through there last week and no traffic impediments whatsoever. Even here in Oregon, we manage to wrap up our road work projects in a year and a half. Agree about Shari’s… I rarely eat at one, but they’re past due for a face lift!

All of that misery and they’re still solidly red. Makes you wonder. I’ve driven through there many times, but have never been encouraged to stop, other than perhaps at a freeway gas station. My parents retired to Grants Pass and lived there for about ten years before bolting back to Alaska. It’s somewhat of a mecca for retirees, but damned if I could ever figure out why.

I’ve been looking around because I really want to get out of Portland proper and as much as I like the terrain around Roseburg I don’t think I could hack the culture–or lack of it. I like the area around La Pine but as an older person who lives alone I do have to take the harsher winters into consideration–going north around Prineville makes the winter less severe but also means more desert-like conditions, which has its up sides but also rattlesnakes and heat and not as much water available. I like to kayak. Bend has all the services you could want, and Costco, Trader Joe’s and all that good stuff, but the real estate prices have gone through the roof–La Pine is only a half hour away and is still affordable but it’s more remote, growing fast and consequently buying something now means it will probably jump in value over the next decade so there’s that.

I’m very fond of the Alsea valley but that’s not great for really older people because it’s one helluva drive to the grocery store! I’d love it there, though, and I have a line on a property that could become available if I hit just the right note. Self sufficiency is a big goal of mine so the 35 mile minimum to anywhere is not an insuperable obstacle.

For the parents, have you considered the area around Independence, Monmouth, Dallas and the like? Close to services, rainy but not egregious, little snow and a lot of that small town charm–I’m kind of amazed at how nicely Independence has grown up, used to be a depressed area but it’s having a cute little renaissance. Probably due to all the winery action that’s been springing up in that part of the valley, brings a bit of traffic through. Rogue brewery also has a farm in the area where they source a lot of their hops and berries and the like–they put on fairs and events and have a little store and picnic grounds, it’s a good little spot to hit if you’re in the area. Housing prices seem pretty reasonable too, although I have no idea of what kind of budget they’re looking at.

I’ve been doing the desultory real estate search for a couple years now and have a LOT of the pros/cons of various areas worked out if you’re interested–and yeah, I’ll go on forever about it if I’m allowed. I used to work in real estate appraisal so researching properties is right there in my wheelhouse. :wink:

Chefguy, re the red state stuff around Roseburg, I know, right? Personally the political culture in Roseburg makes me sick, but I have to accept that to my parents, especially my dad, this is probably more of a consideration than he’d want to admit. Since there was absolutely no discernible draw for Prescott, AZ, I concluded the politics of the place had a lot to do with it. We’re talking Fox “News” channel on nonstop in their home – when I’m not around, that is. When I visit, I insist that the tee vee stay off. Just can’t handle the endless propaganda.

Hey, SmartAleq, you should check out Harrisburg. :smiley: It’s a tiny little farming town that frankly doesn’t have much to recommend it on its own beyond comparatively inexpensive real estate adjacent to the Willamette River. There is a decent diner and an unexpectedly good Thai restaurant. And a superb butcher. It’s also somewhat more moderate politically.

But Harrisburg springboards to nearly everywhere. You’re just a quick shot over to I-5 to head north back into Portland, Eugene is like 15 miles away to the south and a pretty drive to boot. You can get to Alsea Falls within 40 minutes max. A little over an hour to the coast, about the same to the mountains. You can be in Corvallis in about 25 minutes. Also close to many wineries. Nearest grocery store is a Safeway in Junction City, 4 miles away. But if you prefer Trader Joe’s or Market of Choice, Eugene is not far.

Around here, there is a med vac service that provides ambulance or air lift transport to the nearest hospitals for a reasonable annual fee. For all of us living rather rural, it’s a great deal.

For my parents, I don’t think it matters much where my dad sits and rails at the tee vee or grills his steaks. For my stepmom, proximity to Eugene/Portland will matter a lot. She’s very interested in museums, theater and other more extroverted activities. Neither are athletic in any way, but if they were, there are many close-by options for Harrisburg/Eugene.

Thanks for the offer of sharing your pros/cons on various areas of Oregon. I’ll likely be taking you up on that, unless I managed to hit the parental jackpot with Harrisburg.

Harrisburg is a little too flat for me, I’m looking for acreage but I want some hills around it. I’m also looking for a more remote area, which is why I’m so in love with Alsea–the property I’m trying to shake loose is right near the bakery that sells pies, of all things, at roadside. I really want to plant fruit trees so having an outlet for my excess would be pretty awesome. :wink:

Are housing costs an issue … one of the main reasons I moved to Roseburg six months ago was because I could buy a better house for the money I had than in the Willamette Valley …

The social life here is open and friendly … the politics run a bit conservative as would be expected of a timber town … “save the trees” doesn’t get much traction with folks and their chainsaws … and the tax thing, people will not let them go up and government services suffer …

In addition to cheap housing prices … I’ve found city water to be delicious, better than bottled water in every way … I don’t now if they pump out of the river here in town or if they have a pipe up to the springs …

The big downside is food is expensive here … I drive 75 miles north to Eugene to do my monthly shopping … also the rainy weather in winter … we only average 3 feet down here in the valley, but up on the windward slopes averages get to 6 or 8 feet and to the west in the Coast Mountains we have our 12 to 14 feet per year … all this rain gives us very tall trees …

It’s not that it rains every day all long long … but it can get that way for months at a time … if your parents can’t handle grey drippy weather ten months a year … maybe they should look elsewhere …

But you can say nice things about the President without getting into a fist-fight … God that’s annoying, those folks in Eugene are just fricken crazy …

ETA: The “State of Jefferson” is more of a Northern California thing … there’s a few here in Roseburg who fly the flag … but you don’t have to carry a gun on your hip to get a driver’s license …

ETA II - Do your parents hunt or fish? … if so then Roseburg is the place for them … salmon, bass, trout, deer, elk and who knows what else …

My aunt and uncle retired from Corvallis over to Redmond, just North of Bend. It’s definitely drier over on that side of the Cascades. They put a lot of thought into where they could be close to things they enjoy (golf for him, arts and community work for her), as well as good medical care. You might want to check out that area. It’s not too far from me in Albany if I take 20. I think if you use 242 from Eugene it wouldn’t be too bad of a drive for you either.

242 is closed all winter although it is a gorgeous drive. No, from Eugene you take 58 over to 97 then north. The junction of 58 and 97 is just south of La Pine.

Good country for that, and decent access. Though Oregon has some of the most confusing fishing regulations I have seen, worse than even California, so read them well. The hunting guide didn’t seem too bad compared to other states from my skim.

Or take 126 to where US-20 branches off just past Sisters …

This is what I get for trying to quickly eyeball Google Maps. :o