Don’t you just love the lack of introspection here?
To make it perfectly obvious: by telling someone not to junior moderate, you are attempting to moderate them. Pot, meet Kettle.
As for the subject of this thread: If you are going to accuse a dead man of being evil, I’d like to at least see some citations. Prove that this guy’s religious beliefs actually hurt people. Prove that he didn’t believe what he preached. Proof of something besides telling people God can heal them being inherently evil.
All the people I know that believed in his message either got better, or nothing happened at all. I am unaware of any case where he actually made people worse; that one crappy House episode notwithstanding.
You see, this was the one thing that made the Ted Kennedy thing more tolerable was that the desecraters brought up actual facts to explain why they felt the need to desecrate his corpse.
Finally the fairness thing: All social contracts are based on the idea that those in charge will at least try to be fair. America itself exists because the Founding Fathers thought the British system was unfair. Even though this message board is as much a business as a community, it behooves the moderators to try make this place as fair as possible. In fact, the business part makes it worse: you can’t make money off of dissatisfied customers.
Depends. If by “affirmative action” you mean gesture of good will, I like food, booze, cash, etc.
If by “affirmative action” you mean “Affirmative Action”, I’d riposte that would violate the “Equal Protection” clause of the 14th Amendment. (cheerfully handwaving away any lack of state action or other inconvenient technicality)
Twicks’ explanation was enough. I misremembered whether such things were allowed in MPSIMS.
Oral Roberts? Wasn’t that the guy who performed as a rapper under the stage name MC 900 Ft. Jesus? Or maybe I’m just mixed-up… it’s hard for me to keep all these Christ-fellators straight. (Seems kinda difficult for some of them to keep themselves straight, too.)
Originally Posted by Oakminster View Post
Not gonna. I think Oral Roberts was an asshole. Just want to be sure conservatives have a level playing field.
Al Sharpton? Look, any person who hides behind “Reverend” for their own benefit is a waste of perfectly good transplant organs. I don’t wish them dead but I’m glad when they are gone - no matter what politics they follow.
I met Oral Roberts a couple of times. My father taught at his university for close to 30 years and he knew my dad by name. I didn’t like him but my dad did. When offered the chance to go to ORU for free, I declined and paid for most of my own college. I couldn’t handle wearing a tie to class and attending chapel 2 or 3 times per week. Plus they had hair codes. My dad didn’t like my decision but he respected it. I just didn’t want to support Oral or anything he did. We often argued about Oral’s sincerity but never agreed. I can understand my dad’s opinion but I think he was at least partially blinded by a paycheck.
That said, Oral did a great deal for Tulsa; probably more than any other single person with the possible exception of Jean Paul Getty. That he did it while standing on the backs of the elderly is distasteful in the extreme.
If Oral Roberts was a con artist (I personally don’t buy into the Pentecoastal/Charismatic theology and faith healing myself) than Ted Kennedy was a mass-murderer as he supported abortion. But I want some civility and respect after a person has passed away-liberal or conservative.
The republic lies in ruins. The monied interests rule in all but name. Compassion is weak, branding is the Holy Grail, nice guy is an epithet. There is no civility here.
And whither [del]Rome[/del] America goest…
Another person has met the fate we all will.
I believe that Oral Roberts was a product of his time, as are we all. I believe that at some level he believed what he was saying. I believe that he was greedy for money and influence… and was notably ineffective in resisting that greed. He’s likely done good, intentional or unintentional, and evil, intentional and unintentional. Now he is dead. For someone outside the monkeysphere, I’m particularly not too busted up about it. YMMV.
This is very well put and I plan on using this line when my BIL, who went to Oral Roberts brings up this discussion at the Xmas Eve dinner.
How come charges are never brought up against these …what was the charming term used above?..oh yes…Christ Fellators?
Oral, btw, is latin for speaking. I wonder if his middle name was Fellatio.
