Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

Yeah. Too bad Rich already used up the gag about it taking years of study to start as a level 1 wizard while taking a level in Wizard while you’re adventuring is a snap.

I wonder if there’s any kind of power limiter on this thing - uses per day, finite number of uses or the like. If so, there’s definitely an impotence joke in the cards when Roy’s sword fails to perform at a critical time :slight_smile:

Eh, phallic sword jokes are too easy. The only way a good writer like Burlew can get away with them, at this stage of the story at least, is to put them in the mouth of a character who’s already known to be an unimaginative derisive hack.

I wonder if this means Roy is getting his first Mythic tier.

Unfortunately, no. That’s Pathfinder. 3.5, which I think he stayed with, had high level but not Mythic.

Really good idea, though! It would fit well.

It’s not the first time he’s done it…

It does have epic levels, but I don’t think any of the feats fighters can choose from would look like this. A prestige class might explain this folderol.

Or, yanno, just an artifact. An expensive one too, considering it cost him one feat to use proper. Prop’rly ! Artifacts are one of the ways the DM gets to say “you know what, fuck it, I want this in my story”.

anecdote : the Pathfinder campaign I’m currently a player in was written by people who evidently don’t know every minutiae of the rules, like the one that states that magic potions can only have spells in them with a “touch” range, but not “self”.
Ever since we looted a dozen potions of Expeditious Retreat (a spell with “self” range) from random mooks I’ve been adamant the group not sell them. They’re collector items, you know ? We can’t unload them for less than artifact money.

1046: Literally heartless

Good old Papa Greenhilt. Charming as ever.

Poor V…

Ouch!

Just saw it today.

Telegraphed pretty hard, but I can sorta see Eugene’s point. Having an effect that works on “woo confidence!” seems problematic when dragons or whatever can be summoned.

That said, damn those feels. I wonder if V will ever see his love again, much less have her reciprocate.

1047: Perhaps a Few Mini-Revolutions

Roy has a point–he would not make it to Lawful Good heaven if he just let people die.

But I think there’s another issue: Roy may not have fulfilled the oath. Sure, Xykon died, and his inaction assured it. But it’s a death that happened for other reasons, not vengeance. And Roy didn’t kill him, so he’s arguably not the one that enacted the vengeance.

So it’s possible that Roy goes somewhere else and Eugene is still stuck on that little cloud, since it would be impossible for anyone to avenge Xykon after that.

“You don’t think there are enough dragons?”

Well, not anymore…

Heck, after seeing that performance of Eugene’s, my fervent hope for the resolve is that OOTS foils Hel’s plot, defeats the Goblin race (or better yet, engineers detente between Goblinoids and humanoids), banishes a still-living (okay still-undead) Xykon to the watery world on the opposite side of the rifts*, and calls it a day. Then, SUCK IT, Eugene!

*Bonus points if the watery worlds physics don’t allow Magic to operate, so there’s no karmic burden of creating a situation where Xykon can oppress a different world beneath his bony heel.

Much as I hate to side with the guy, Jerkass Greenhilt kinda has a point there. What’s the sense of working so very hard at saving the world, in a world where it is known *for a fact *that death is far from the end and “the world” is a tiny part of a much larger cosmogony ?
So everybody dies. Big deal, they’ll be snarking at their personal lantern Archon (or alignment equivalent) and be in the company of their loved ones in no time at all. Or feuding with their hated ones, or plotting their eventual rise to power forever if that’s what their alignment dictates - the details matter little, the point is that while life doesn’t go on identity and consciousness do. So… who cares about a little omnicide, really ? When it all comes down to it, push comes to shove, inna final analysis and all that ?

If the afterlife was the only point of existence, why create the world in the first place? The Gods presumably thought there was a reason why beings should have a period of mortal life before they go on to their afterlife. Maybe the mortal world holds all the potential of existence - it’s where new lives are created and where people are free to make the choices that will determine their afterlives. Once you eliminate the mortal world, everyone will just be locked into their afterlives for eternity and you’ll have a static universe.

Except we already know that the gods intend to build a new world to replace the current one, so that’s no loss, either.

But then there’s the dwarves. If the world ends, they all go to Hel. So that’s worth preventing.

It’s like the OotSverse version of the Sorting Hat.

ETA that at the rate Eugene is going Roy won’t have to worry about bumping into him in the afterlife, because I’m pretty sure casual indifference to - or active encouragement of - genocide/omnicide has got to put a sizable dent in one’s Lawful Good credentials.