I somehow missed the last row of panels- my screen must have been scrolled down juuust wrong- and I was very confused when I read the GitP discussion thread and people were talking about Xykon.
Once Thor gets a dwarf to believe that some trees aren’t evil, can he eventually convince them that all trees are Chaotic Good rebels, yearning to throw off the reputation of their evil kin?
Seems that the problem was that he couldn’t tell Minrah unless she already knew about it.
Glad she’s getting a chance to be involved.
It also is starting to look like Minrah won’t just be walking off to Valhalla, never to be seen again.
If the gods are aware of Xykon, does it stand to follow that they know about Redcloak and The Ritual intended to force them to capitulate to the Dark One?
“God ride.” LOL.
Heading to the Astral Plane. Which we already know the MITD is familiar with, though he can’t remember why.
Still liking Alessan’s theory.
No, that doesn’t follow. Even Xykon doesn’t know the real Plan. He was told a deliberately misleading version of it in SoD. And the gods in this universe are not omniscient, so they don’t necessarily even know that version of the Plan. Furthermore, I suspect that even Redcloak doesn’t know the real Plan. There’s probably parts of it that the Dark One withheld from him.
I think probably they do. It looks like we’re about to find out what they know in the next few strips.
Remind me, the PCs don’t know about the Plan, do they?
Nope, only Redcloak (and Jirix maybe not sure) know the Dark One’s version of the plan. Only the Dark One knows if he was lying to Redcloak. Xykon got a completely false vesion, AFAICT nobody else knows anything.
I forget from Start of Darkness, but did Redcloak ever tell Right Eye or Right Eye’s daughter about the Plan?
I really wonder what’s so important about this thing on the Astral Plane that Thor’s got to show Durkon and Minrah. I vaguely remember reading something at GITP, though I’ve never heard of it in the D&D games I’ve played or other related media I’ve used, that gods when they die get something like a statute of their likeness placed on the Astral Plane. Other than that, the only other thing we’ve heard in comic that’s there is Xykon’s crib, and Thor said they weren’t going there.
I’ve speculated that Redcloak may have already fulfilled the Dark One’s plan but doesn’t understand it. The Dark One wasn’t seeking total domination of the world; he only wanted there to be a homeland for the goblins so they could have equality with the other races. And that’s been achieved with the founding of Goblintopia (aka the former Azure City).
But Redcloak hates all other races and he’s projecting his hatred. He figures the Dark One must also hate all other races and want to see them all crushed. So he’s pushing forward with his plans for the Snarl even though there’s no longer any purpose to it. By doing so, he’s actually endangering Goblintopia and may undo the Dark One’s plan. This accounts for the warning the Dark One sent via Jirix: “Don’t screw this up.”
That was a Planescape addition, I believe, and it wasn’t statues, it was the gods’ actual defunct, lifeless corpses. The githyanki’s main city (where their lich queen lived) was dug into the head of one.
How metäl. Still sounds small for a city, even before Thor shrank for his worshippers’ ease, but it’s definitely a memorable detail. I wonder if Charlie Stross thought of that tidbit too for the Gith? Floored me to learn that, after I’d already loved reading him for the Laundry and his other Sci-Fi, that he was the guy who came up with the githyanki, slaad, and death knights from Fiend Folio.
Reminds me of the climax of Larry Niven’s The Magic Goes Away where the sacrifice to bring back a senescent god is of the dormant World-Girdling Serpent, part of whose spine is the Alps. The plan is to use the act of necromancy to cause the God to return, grow, and bring down the Moon to Earth. The Moon being an untouched resource of mana, the lack of which on Earth was causing the titular magic going away.
Well, if the bauriar were a Planescape thing, and got name-checked in the last strip, then maybe we’ll see their Snarl-torn corpses too. And if one of them should be missing…
The Gith have “monasteries” in Limbo, maintaining a bubble of order around them by sheer force of will, IIRC.
Do we know who needs to be punished for flumpfs?
Jon Pickens.
That’s the Githzerai. The Githyanki are evil and live in the Astral Plane, while the Githzerai are LN and live in Limbo. They both hate the Mind Flayers, though.
He told Right Eye. I don’t think it was ever mentioned that it was passed on to Right Eye’s daughter.
Yeah, I brain-farted. The Gith are from Dark Sun.
But it doesn’t account for the army of souls that Dark One is assembling. He has a use in mind for that, and it’s not going to be pleasant for anyone else. A homeland and equality for the goblins is just a first step in the Dark One’s plans. I’m sure he’s much more ambitious than that. Probably planning to become Overgod above all the pantheons, if not wiping out them altogether. Which by extension, would mean the goblins would become the dominant race in the Prime Material Plane.
The Gith - both githzerai and githyanki - are from way, way back, and were in the Fiend Folio and probably Dragon or White Dwarf or Imagine before that. Long, long before Dark Sun. Are you thinking of the hippo-people with a penchant for gunpowder and explosions? Those are the Giff. I think they came in with Planescape, BICBW.