Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

1160: Returning Champions

Well, so much for an attack on the roof from above. Also Durkon remains beltless (as least in a magic item sense)

Where’s Minrah? Secret mission?

How can you tell? What about Roy’s picture indicates he’s wearing a belt that isn’t replicated in Durkon’s?

I hope one of the spellcasters has Dismissal prepared.

Probably still dead.

Roy’s is green. Granted, they could come in other colors but I’d expect Burlew to make them Matching Belt Buddies if Durkon owned the same thing.

Nah, resurrecting her was at the top of Durkon’s to-do list once he got his spells for the day. Secret mission is more likely.

I’m not one to usually complain about the pace of the strips. But it’s been almost two weeks and today’s strip was almost simplistic, plot-wise. I wonder if he’s worked on a few at the same time there will be more updates in the near future.

Allows spell resistance, and the ‘likeable deathworm’, or LDW, has a ton. 31, tbe. I don’t think any of the Order would have a good shot at beating that SR.

I’m surprised that V and Haley were in range of that Cone of Cold, and I’m also surprised the LDW didn’t use another spell, then follow with its quickened CoC. GDM would work, or Finger of Death whichever character the LDW feared most—maybe Haley, since Haley looks like a rogue, and evasion means she’s just going to probably ignore the quickened Cone anyway. Kind of surprised V took that Cone of Cold and is still standing.

With the range Sunburst has (400 feet and then some), you have to wonder why V just didn’t lead with it as soon as s/he got eyes on the vampires. It wouldn’t touch the LDW (assuming it even had been summoned by the time V would’ve seen the vampires), but it’d probably smoke both vampires. Heck, turn the corner into the room while invisible, see where the vampires are, back up until they can’t see you anymore, and lob that holy hand grenade at whatever architectural element near the vampires that you can see. Follow up with Disintegrate—another spell with a long range—on whatever is left twitching, or the ceiling.

Poof! Subplot gone, with removing the domination of the dwarven elders, which is probably why that wasnt going to be done.

Hilgya looks like she’s going to help out. That’s good. I’m amused that Belkar isn’t just running up to the LDW for stabby-stabby. Guess he’s learned something over the last few days.

What spells don’t check for spell resistance?

It looks like Forcecage doesn’t check for SR. Which is strange then that V would choose to use it on the vampires then, and not the worm. With the worm caged, Roy and Durkon are packing weapons that could one-shot vampires that or the following round. (Of course, the worm could probably take the cage down with Greater Dispel Magic whenever it chose)

Most of the other spells that don’t check for it are conjuration-based, which V can’t use.

Edit, GITP thread I pulled the spell resistance information from: No spell resistance spells

Forcecage has a fixed size (well, two, technically - 10 or 20 foot cube) so it may not be large enough to contain the worm.

He wanted to stop the vamp from crossing the barrier. SR has a chance to prevent that, but casting the spell one round later *definitely *prevents that.

What is SR?

Spell Resistance

D&D 3.0/3.5 Vampires don’t have Spell Resistance (having just checked my books).

I see that, but wouldn’t something like delayed blast fireball or disintegrate, followed up with a quickened fireball, do pretty much the same thing, with the advantage of possibly killing the Exargggh, rather than just caging him for one round? Or doing something that doesn’t involve marching up into close range (Cone of cold’s range is just 60 feet) with something like that worm or the gaze threat of the vampires?

I guess I’m just annoyed at watching the Order continually fight with one arm behind their back, otherwise we wouldn’t have a dramatic story.

Ender, if you can figure out the update schedule, more power to you. (Though either dtilque or Peter did a great job of trying to a few pages back.) I think though that the art takes him more time to draw than the plot does to write, and this update has quite a few different art elements. I’m not surprised the new and improved OOTS took this long to provide this kind of update. Sucks it takes two weeks, but what can you do? He’s got to be just about done with all the Kickstarter swag by now, right?

Nope, but they’re not the main threat if they were to stay and fight the Order. That spellcasting worm is. A Nightcrawler is a really, really nasty critter. CR 19, I think. I was just trying to think of some way that V could help spellwise against the worm besides just trying not to die.

I believe Roy v Greg round 1 went by very quickly as a big climactic moment. Hopefully as we’re getting into what must be the book 6 climax, the strips will come at a similar rate.

In the past I have suggested that he build a slight backlog so that he can issue new strips more regularly during periods of low productivity, but I don’t know if he’s ever seriously considered doing that. I can’t possibly be the only person who has suggested it in the many years he’s been doing this and the extreme variability of releases hasn’t changed.