I’m speculating that you couldn’t do a partial reversal. The spell turned the person into stone as a single action. Cancelling the spell would turn all of the statute back into all of the person - even if the statute had been broken up since the spell was cast.
At that point, some people might discover that the stones they used for building a chimney or wall used to be a person. I’m assuming chaotic evil wizards use this effect for practical jokes.
That would be good, but it was Melissa.
Makes sense. Never really came up in the opposite sense – if a statued person lost some chips, no one worried if the missing chips became little lumps of flesh somewhere but maybe they did. So now, what’s the range? If I take a part and travel a continent away, is the remainder still affected? What if I travel to another plane of existence? I suppose a fair DM ruling would just be that you needed to have 50.01%+ of the stone for the spell to be successful. At that point, I could ignore whether or not the remaining 49-odd percent was transmuted back or not.
Of course, Stone to Flesh also works on ordinary, natural stone that was never fleshy (before now). So if you need all of the statue-bits for the reversal form to work, that might be a way to discover that the stone you have isn’t natural.
Slight diversionary rant here:
I HATE that DnD did this to Medusa when the perfectly generic name gorgon already exists. Like what they did to Pegasus, but compounded by them naming their khalkotaurus expy “gorgon” for an idiocy-in-naming twofer
It could have been worse. Just be glad they didn’t decide to rename dragons as puffs.
Naah, this is Gygax we’re talking about - he’d have called them smaugs. I believe his motto was “First rip off Tolkien, then look around”
Until he was forced to go with fafnirs for legal reasons.
You can’t blame gorgons on Gygax. Medieval bestiaries had a “gorgon” as something resembled an armor-plated bull with noxious breath. In fact, rather a lot of D&D traces back to those medieval bestiaries.
One imagines that they were popular among much the same demographic as play D&D nowadays. Nerds have always been with us.
You’re right I can’t blame him for first coming up with the idea of a bull-shaped monster called gorgon.
I can certainly blame him for including it under that name, one entry under “Medusae”, and changing the breath from poison to petrifying. That’s all on him.
Topsel isn’t mediaeval, and AFAIK he’s the only period one who had a bull-shaped gorgon. I’m happy to be shown otherwise.
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That doesn’t absolve Gygax of blame for not doing his research. And I mean, c’mon, ultimately he was just lazy - “Nick it from White or Fantastic Bestiary and call it done”.
Stupid quotes!
True that (although I wouldn’t expect it to come up often). In that case, I’d likely rule that a petrified character who loses 50%+ of their body is dead and Stone to Flesh only restores life (if at all) to the major portion.
It occurs to me that I almost never used Stone to Flesh effects in my games or see it used in games I play. I suspect because it’s either an effect where it’s easily mitigated (either by player spells or the inevitable reversal scroll in a handy chest nearby) or it just wrecks the character for a single failed save. In neither case is it especially fun. But the net result is that I never spent much time considering what happens to a busted up statue-guy’s soul in the meanwhile.
OK, MrDibble, it sounds like you know more about this than I, so I will bow to your expertise.
But I’m still waiting for D&D stats for a bonnacon. Maybe even the devs have their limits.
If you play 3.5 (or Pathfinder, probably), you’re covered. In dung, probably, but still…
I’ve not seen a God fade away like that before. Hel is a major god in their pantheon too. If she completely fades out, that’s it for her, right? She can’t come back? Does another god take on her duties then? Or do they have to wait until enough worshippers start thinking that there needs to be something like a God of Death? Loki’s demeanor is worrisome too.
We don’t know enough about how the Stickworld deities work to guess at what happens if a deity stops existing, etc (especially from a major pantheon) but Loki is probably upset about both his daughter being obviously unwell and her desire to destroy him in the next world.
Loki: tricks Hel into giving up her ability to make clerics
Hel: reacts negatively
Loki: surprised pikachu face
I think he also sees the truth in what she’s saying. They still can’t stop the Snarl.
Haha. Although maybe he didn’t realize just how negatively it would affect her health. Although we learned that Odin got screwed up when his people stopped worshiping him last go-around so it couldn’t have been a real surprise. Maybe we’ll get more exposition in a week!
Maybe. But I assume he’s on the “Convince the Dark One” train so he’s got some reason to hope.
I’m sure. I was just amused at the idea that Loki, a CE god, would be genuinely surprised that someone doesn’t love getting backstabbed.