Order of the Stick General Discussion Thread (Open Spoilers and Speculation)

Or possible a Micheal Jackson joke, as someone pointed out on another forum. Born as dark skinned; pale and androgynous as adults.

Nah. They’re doing a MichAEl Jackson joke on Gobwin Knob right about now. They’d never have both comics making the same joke at once.

Both comics made a subway joke at once a while back.

They’re 4th edition elves (which are of darker complexion and different hair color).

It’s the same running joke as Haley’s father being a 1st edition Thief – as they go through the generations, they’ve gone through the D&D editions.

I think she killed V’s family before coming to visit V on the island.

Why give Vaarsuvius a tiny chance of defeating you, when you can give him none? To give him hope. And then dash it. That would be much more evil.

I just hope Vaarsuvius realizes that she has no way to know if that dragon-mama is telling the truth.

Yes, but when you are dealing with magic at that level, there are lots of instant-kill spells that only depend on who fails a saving throw first (see some of the effects of Prismatic Spray). Check out the battle between Redcloak and the high priest in Azure City. As someone set on defeating a mage of that level, you’d be wise to make sure that most of those spells were long gone, dragon or not. In a battle between a 20th level mage and a 14th level mage, you’d still be a fool to confidently place money on either one.

How long-lived are OOTS elves, that kindergarteners are 26 years old?!

#630 is out, by the way.

Cool. Not being a D&D player, I miss the inside references like that.

Pompey, who was a classmate of Roy’s 16-year-old sister Julia, was 43 himself.

#631 Um, YIKES.

V’s not going to go all warlocky or something now, is V?

Pre-approved.

Never before have those words sent such a chill down my spine …

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Roughly the same as any other D&D elves. A 110 year old elf is equivalent to a 15 year old human. (Meaning a direct adjustment would make a kindergartener elf 36.)

Bingo on whoever guessed the kids were adopted, too.

No, it isn’t. Drizzt Do’Urden left the academy of Melee-Magthere at the age of thirty, and that was in a book written 19 years ago. Plus, in the 3.5 sourcebook Races of the Wild it was spelled out explicitly that elves do not mature that much more slowly than humans, with an elf of 25 about the same as a human of 20.

Good Lord, you just got all grognardy and quoted rulebooks to refute a joke in Order of the Stick.

C’mon. We all know that Rich uses the stuff that makes the strip funny, and tosses out stuff when that makes the strip funny. OotS elves are kindergardeners in their 20s because that is funny. It’s the same type of funny as why V and Other Parent are of indeterminate gender.

I’m sure Races of the Wild and some randomly obscure Salvatore book has something to say about that too. But that way lies madness. And unfunnyness.

No, not to refute the joke, to refute the claim that it’s the same in the actual game, rather than just a common assumption.

“Randomly obscure”? It’s more or less the D&D novel, the one that introduces Drizzt Do’urden, the most famous character in any of the settings.

Drizzt is a Drow, Drow aren’t the same as regular elves - your average Drow is lucky to survive long enough to reach adulthood by standard Elven standards.

And Races of the Wild is contradicted by the PHB, which explicitly states that Elves reach adulthood at 110. (Whereas humans reach adulthood at 15.)

If you want to take the secondary source as canon, that’s your choice, but the primary materials, and thus default is the core books.

That isn’t how Wizards has been doing things. New books frequently contain updates to parts of the PHB (Quicken Spells becoming a swift action, rules concerning weaponlike spells in Complete Arcane, the new, less broken [Polymorph] subschool they’ve tried to create, etc), and this would be no exception. Given that it refers specifically to the information provided by the PHB as being incorrect, in the sourcebook for elves, there is no question that this is intended to supercede the previous book.