As a hooker for a rugby team (dear god leave the snide remarks alone, its a demeaning enough position already) I throw the ball into line-outs. When somebody from either team jumps too far into the tunnel a penalty is called for “barging.” My question is if this is the origin for the expression “barging into” something, a conversation for example. I would consult the OED, but I never got around to buying one.
Doubtful. My dictionary (it ain’t the OED, but close enough) defines “barge,” among other things, to mean “to move in a lumbering or clumsy way,” as in “to barge into somebody.” Or in this case, to barge into a line of proto-human scrummies.
No dobut, the use of the term “barge” in this manner predates rugby’s development in the late 1800’s. I would assume this usage derives from the clumsy way in which broad, flat barges are navigated up and down rivers carrying heave loads of cargo. Reference to barges in the context of shipping dates back hundreds of years in the English language. I’m about 60% certain I’ve heard reference to them in Shakespeare.
Save your money. It’s a well known fact that forwards are illiterate.
Kisses,
Your friendly neighborhood Fly Half.
I believe that Nurlman is correct in the etymology. The term ‘barging’ in the line-out is new to me, maybe I’m just not listening to the sir enough.
As to Nurlman’s other comments, he is obviously jealous that scrummies get all the chicks.
ChiefWahoo, your unfriendly neighborhood lock. (that’s second-row to you illiterate backs)
P.S. Spider, do your locks a favor and don’t eat beans the day before a match.
Its the same the whole world over,
Its the scrum that gets the blame.
Its the line that gets the glory,
Ain’t it all a #@*&%! shame!