No, it was done by a force more evil than any of those. (He’s dead now . . . supposedly . . .)
First I want to be clear that the underlying rationale for this movement have shifted on this debate from Obama was born in kenya to Obama was born in Hawaii at a time when Hawaii was not a state to Obama’s mom didn’t meet the residency requirement to confer citizenship to her son and now stating that because Obama’s father was not a citizen, Obama was not natural born.
The argument being presented by Mario Appuzza is deeply flawed and is based on a definition of natural born citizen that was not commonly accepted at the time of the writing of the constitution or any time thereafter. It was devised after the fact to include every situation to date besides Obama. The question of natural born was discussed among constitutional scholars way back when Mitt Romney’s dad was running for President and even though he was not born in America, he was born to two citizens so he (as well as McCain later on), would be natural born citizens.
Basically, the law is that anyone that does not have to be naturalized to become a citizen is a natural born citizen as long as they are not the children of diplomats or the children of foreign invaders.
I read this whole thread instead of doing my homework.
This should say something about the excitement of my homework.
Your next assignment: Stupid Republican Idea of the Day.
It’s up to 84 pages, so I hope you have a lot of homework to avoid.
Just tell your teacher: “The Dope ate my homework time.” 
You realize you just gave Them their next argument.
Indeed–have Americans truly forgotten the brutal Kenyan Invasion of Hawaii, by the forces under the command of the ruthless General Barack Obama, Sr.?
He was obviously a diplomat.
He was Kenyan Ambassador to the Kingdom of Hawaii. (The Kenyan Foreign Ministry was just a little bit behind the curve.)
Slight hijack: What does John Jay have to do with Birther theories?
John Jay was the one who originally proposed the “natural born citizen” language for eligibility for the presidency.
It depends on three things:
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[li]What color skin does he have?[/li][li]Does he have a funny sounding name?[/li][li]Is he a Democrat?[/li][/ol]
Simple really.
With these people, 1 or 3 is probably sufficient by itself. I’m not sure Mitt or Newt would agree with number 2.
Sheesh. Will this madness never end? :smack:
The motion, as written, cited no controlling authority. The lawyer basically wrote a letter to the judge saying ‘he’s the president he doesn’t have to show up.’ This is not acceptable. The lawyer will have his ass burnt and will write a much better letter to the judge.
The lawyer is the general counsel for the Georgia Democratic Party. He won’t “have his ass burnt”; he’ll just file a response to the motion.
Well, today is the big day. I wonder if the Georgia Administrative court was the big event KBO was referring to. :eek:
Now, I may be wrong, as I am the furthest thing from a lawyer, but wouldn’t a judge know that a sitting president can’t be compelled via subpoena? Or am I incorrect on that?
Ask Newt “I’m telling my recently diagnosed with MS wife that I’m fucking around on her and she can accept it or go fuck herself” “family values” Gingrich if it’s okay to apply pressure to get a subpoena over a blowjob.
This is unliving proof that zombies do exist.
If Taitz is not taken as an undead, properly subdued (I am not certain about D&D 3.5 rules, but someone here can help) and arraigned, then there IS NO JUSTICE!
<shakes fist and then breaks into sobs and tears>
In other words, this seems unreal to me.
I just came from the ‘Order of the Stick’ thread.
THAT seems more real to me than this.