Osama bin Laden is Dead

I’m saying the same thing the update says: the goal was to kill him, not take him alive with killing him as a last resort.

Wild speculation based on nothing, means nothing, adds nothing
to the discussion.

However…

However, Mr. Wright dwells extensively on the career of Sayyid Qutb.
It is not speculation of any kind that:

  1. Qutb was OBL’s intellectual inspiration, and

  2. Qutb was hostile to the US and Western culture as of the late 1940s,
    50 years before there were any US troops in SA.

That pretty strongly suggests the accuracy of my position, doesn’t it?

Oh, and when a citation is not availble on the internet the hardcopy should
be quoted, including the page number, so please follow up on this promise
of ours, even though we were entitled to accomodate our hosts’ request
to stay longer.

My guess is that there will be a video in a few days showing someone who looks very like Bin Laden holding a picture of that day’s New York Times. So what, that’s no reason not to have killed him, right?

http://www.freep.com/article/20110502/NEWS05/305020002/1317/headlines/Detroit-area-Arab-Americans-Muslims-rejoice-at-death-of-bin-Laden
Here is how Dearborn reacted.

“You have the right to remain… ah, fuck it.” :slight_smile:

Although, here’s a prediction: a contingent of Americans will insist that since bin Laden wasn’t actually buried in the ground, how do we know he’s actually dead? Can we call them ‘earthers?’

Why wouldn’t they be happy, Bin Laden killed more Muslims than Americans.

Bush is responsible for far, far more corpses than bin Laden. Where’s his gibbet?

It’s crossed my mind that he may have shot himself but saying an American bullet did it sounds better.

The buried at sea thing seems strange to me. Were they afraid his body would be stolen if they buried him in Afghanistan? And if it was, so what?

Someone just posted a link about Arab Americans celebrating. Going through the pictures there are lots of shots of what look like teenagers or 20 somethings celebrating and waving flags. These kids were what 10 or 11, when the towers came down.

I want to know which of the men were using women as shields.

It would seem to me that with such an operation there would be numerous advantages to filming whatever’s possible as long as it had zero impact on the action itself. Not someone running around with a camera but just gunship and helmet attached views. Documentation, training, defense from accusations of wrongdoing, etc. I wonder if that was done and, if so, if it’ll ever become public.

I imagine they didn’t want anyone building a mosque or shrine near the grave.

Assuming he is as religious as they say, suicide is verboten in Islam.

I agree.

I wondered about that but didn’t know. Now I wonder if there are exceptions, such as, about to be captured and tortured by the enemy, which might bring harm to fellow jihadists.

Ahhhh that makes sense.

They’re now saying that no nation was willing or able to take the body, and so burial at sea was the only remaining option in accordance with Islamic custom, which basically required they dispose of the body one way or another within 24 hours. I am sure the shrine/memorial was something they were concerned about and I wouldn’t be surprised if the other stuff was cover, but we’ll see. I don’t think they were worried about the body being stolen specifically.

If I had the say, I would have constructed a Gay Christian Wedding Chapel on his grave.

Ok, then we’re loading a different page, because when I Ctrl+F what you wrote, I get nothing.

Based on the fact that bin Laden didn’t attack the US for over a decade after we put troops in Saudi Arabia (August, 1990 - Desert Shield begins; October, 2000 - USS Cole is bombed).

No.

You lost me.

I don’t believe the human shield thing for a second. I could be convinced otherwise, but only with rock-solid evidence like video. It’s just too comic-booky.

Which body of water I wonder, The Arabian Sea?