Technically, he’s bragging about the fact that he’s basically foisting his employee health care costs off onto the US Tax Payer through the ER system.
Tell me about it… that last dictator that we ousted… all we could do was send in drones and aircraft. We can’t even afford to send in a few tens of thousands of ground troops any more. We probably had fewer than 1000 contractors in it. This austerity sucks!
I always noted when people did that. I corrected several customers when I let them know that their card would be charged to me, in addition to the cash, so they were double-tipping. Particularly when they’re already giving me a nice five dollar tip, I really hate to rip them off and get them twice when I know full well it is an innocent mistake.
Folks, if you’re giving a five dollar tip, you have single handedly paid for me for the entire hour, and I served you for 20 minutes. (10 minutes to and back).
Obviously not everyone does this, but if you do, the next two-three customers can not tip me and I won’t even care. You make my night with a five dollar tip.
I can take your five dollar tip and plop that down on most of my pizza dinner that night. It goes from being eight and change to 3 and change. I can afford that.
You’ll note I have not been a butthole here when I talk about acceptable minimums for a tip- I’m being honest when I say a dollar or less is too little, but never do I demand a five dollar tip or exaggerate the burdens placed on drivers to elicit sympathy. You are okay with tipping two or three bucks as a nice minimum, no problems at all. If everyone tipped, I’d be fine with a dollar. Trouble is they don’t, that’s why it is not enough.
The folks who tip five dollars or more make it possible for us to deliver to the rest of the people in town. They carry my expenses and makes it possible for me to not worry about what happens if my car breaks down. Then it becomes well worth my investment to get repairs and new tires and stuff.
I will never post in a thread like this and ask for five dollars as a tip for a 10 dollar meal. But know that when you tip like that, the guy you’re tipping KNOWS you’re being a decent person to him, and every dollar of that is going right into oil changes and tires and maintenance and rent and food. It really helps.
I won’t ask for it but I will say thank you.
Rule:
If you’re concerned that you’re not tipping enough, then you’re tipping enough.
The people who don’t tip enough are the people who think the delivery fee is the tip, or think tipping is a form of bribery and are making a moral stand against it out of ignorance of the facts, or are cheapskates. So, bottom line, basic rule of thumb is, if you’re concerned, you’ve tipped us enough.
Give you an example of the most basic tipping etiquette.
A bellhop at a hotel comes up and carries your bags all the way from your vehicle to your hotel room. How much do you tip? You order nothing but a coffee at a cafe where there’s a server. You’re in and out in 5 minutes. How much do you tip? You call for a cab. How much do you top the cabbie? If you ever tip anyone less than a dollar, for any service, you’re saying to them that their profession is worth being paid in bubble gum. I have been tipped 12 cents. I have been tipped 3 cents. People say “keep the change” and the remainder is my tip.
Ask yourself this: Even if you don’t think my job is vital- how many times will I have to do what I just did for you, in order to make minimum wage?
Ask yourself this: How many times will I have to render a service, just like the one I just performed, in order to pay for a gumball at a vending machine?
If I need to deliver 5 pizzas to finally be able to afford that gumball I’ve always wanted, then you have not actually tipped me. You have insulted me worse than forgetting to tip at all. I do not want your five pennies rattling around in my pocket.
There is no way, in this modern world, a man can live on 25 cents for services rendered. Please, I would rather you tell me you think I am a leech on society, and to find another job. It would be more honest of you. It will send a clear message that I should stop wasting my time serving you, and start begging on the street like the bums that loiter in front of my store. I guarantee you, they make more than me.
I would rather be told that you don’t believe my time was worth anything, and that you hate my guts, than to be handed ten cents for my time.
Okay, maybe delivering you a pizza is not worth 8 dollars. I agree, that’s how much I should be paid per hour, not per delivery. That’s why I never request such a minimum.
What is the fair, basic, bare-bones minimum for services rendered?
I need minimum wage, plus expenses: 8 dollars per hour, plus gasoline, plus the additional 100 dollars a month I pay in car insurance due to being a driver, plus some budget for tires, oil, maintenance, and depreciation.
I get paid 4, plus gasoline. What’s missing? Another 4 dollars an hour, plus expenses. Work it out, maybe another 6 dollars per hour, total, in tips, to make ends meet.
Effectively, 10 bucks an hour plus gasoline. I get paid 4 so I need about 5-6 in tips to live off of.
I can do that if the average tip is just two dollars. That’s on average, which includes the folks who stiff me, so someone needs to pay me more than two to make up for it.
Check my math; it’s not unreasonable to need two bucks to do a delivery. If I work for you personally 20 minutes, and you tip me two dollars, you’re essentially paying me 6 dollars per hour for my services. Are you getting ripped off? That’s some of the cheapest service you could ever ask for. And if you’re not satisfied, the manager at the store is likely to give you free things. It’s a steal.
So, when I look at a cabbie who already gets paid to do his job, but he also needs tips to live on, let’s say he shuttles me around for 30 minutes. Isn’t that worth… something? Regardless of the fare, most of that goes to his company and his vehicular expenses, and then a basic hourly rate. But he still should be compensated for his time, so there’s an incentive for him to be available to deliver me to places at a moment’s notice. So maybe tipping him 10 dollars would be nice, but I can’t afford that. I do know this much: If I tip him 4 dollars, it won’t break my budget, and if every fare paid him a few bucks in tips, I know for a fact he can pay his bills. If he makes 5-6 bucks an hour in tips, then I know he’s got the bare minimum of a safety net.
You know, I’ve never been a cabbie, and I don’t personally know how much to tip. But a simple calculation in my head tells me how much to tip a guy.
If it’s too low for some reason, because I’m ignorant of how much to tip, then I still know this much: I tipped him, and many people do not. And based on my tipping level alone, he could afford to live if everyone tipped him that much.
So I know I’m safe and I’m not ripping him off, and he’s not ripping me off.
If you’re well-to-do and feel like paying someone more than the absolute bare minimum to survive, go ahead and be generous. You’re helping keep the economy going, and this isn’t a charity… this is a guy who is EARNING his keep in our society. So feel good about tipping him. But huge tips aren’t mandatory, and don’t anyone ever feel bad about not being an insanely huge tipper.
Just tip an acceptable minimum and nobody can complain, except the people who don’t belong in the business.
The bellhop example:
If a guy carries my bags for me up to my room, without me asking him for the service, but I didn’t stop him, he’s expecting to get paid, and I tacitly agreed to pay him when I didn’t insist on carrying my own bags. If I tip him a dollar or less for this service, I’m telling him that he is a well-dressed chimp who I expect will be at my beck and call, and pay him less per hour than a circus animal expects in feed.
It’s beyond insulting. If I can’t afford to tip him, I will stop him right there and say “Sir! I’m sorry, I have absolutely no cash on me to tip you. Please allow me to carry my own bags.”
That’s less cruel than expecting him to perform the service, then turning to him with excuses.
Remember the recent, infamous example where someone spent over 120 bucks at a restaurant and left nothing for a tip because, “Single mother, sorry”?
People cannot pay their bills with excuses. I don’t need to hear them. Hey, I’ve got my own sob stories too. Remember my stolen car? You know how much it cost me to get it back? 800 dollars in towing and storage fees, administrative costs, and damage to the vehicle. And I was lucky. And that was part of my JOB. I had to expect something like that would happen.
Everyone has sob stories, I don’t want to hear about my customer’s. If they expect services from me, I expect them to pay, every time.
I don’t go to a tire change place, get all new tires put on, balanced, and rotated, and say “Thanks my good man. I’ll catch you next time, I promise.” Promises don’t pay the rent. Neither do offers of hits on your joint, my stoner friends with the “munchies”. Neither do offers of lap dances, strippers. This is particularly egregious coming from you. You work for tips, so you know better. Do I come to your work, ask for a lap dance, and *then offer to pay you with a lap dance? *Can you pay your bills in customer’s lap dances? Don’t offer one to me then. Pay me for services rendered, and maybe I’ll come back and buy one. Just don’t hold your breath. I don’t want a *beer *either. Take a wild guess why.
TL;DR
Anyways, most people in this thread seem to get it, so I’m probably beating a dead horse.
**Bottom line still is- if you worry about whether you tip enough, then you tip enough. 99 times out of 100. **The one percent remainder is the two old ladies who purchase a cup of coffee each at a cafe and leave a 15% tip which is far less than a dollar for their server. Maybe they mean well, but never ever ever tip less than a dollar under any circumstances. Good rule of thumb.
Yeah, hey, how 'bout you read the thread? There’s a big fat number of things that make this particular turd of a CEO look incredibly disingenuous when he says that “Obamacare will drive us into bankruptcy”. Might wanna read the first post by AskThePizzaGuy in this thread.
Those very streets that other people have paid for, no less.
I thought this was pit thread about shitty pizza, not the economic plans of the previous administration ![]()
Why isn’t any of this sticking to Peyton Manning?
Throw the ball. Catch the ball. Run with the ball. “Think” is way, way down on the list. Unless you are thinking about how best to throw, catch, or run with the ball.
My husband paid for our pizza in cash at one point, including tip, telling the guy to keep the change. He came back less than a minute later (probably counting it on the way out to the car) to inform us that we probably didn’t mean to give him that $50 bill. Actually, no (my husband pulled the pizza cost out of some Christmas money and the bills got stuck together), but we did give him extra on top of what was supposed to be a 20% tip, in thanks for his honesty.
The (independent, one location) pizza place is only about 5 blocks away so obviously we’re ordering when we’re too lazy to go get it, but we always get great service and hot food early. There is a small delivery charge but I know they don’t get that, and I figure in this town a lot of people probably won’t tip worth a damn for delivery.
A buck? I usually tip 10%.
Hard to see who this is aimed at - if it was me, usually our orders start at $30 from this particular place, but if it was less, I tip $5 minimum. Great neighborhood pizza place, so both the food cost and tips are worth it when we do order delivery or eat in.
Ordered pizza last month from the game store, four of us going in on it. Bill was $30.73.
Guy putting it together says “So $8 apiece”.
I say “No, that’s like no tip at all. It’s $9 apiece.”
(screws up his face) “you want to give him more than $5 for a tip???”
“Yes, $5.27 on $30 and change. That’s fair. So $9 apiece.”
Of course, no idea if he actually followed through and paid it.
Cheap much? Thinking $1.27 is a reasonable tip? :dubious:
Yikes, he might have to sell his Camero to keep up with the costs.
I usually tip a buck plus 10% at minimum, plus extra for good service. If I order something expensive, then I’m not going to pay 25% for mediocre service, for doing the same job a person at Waffle House would be doing for much less. On the other hand I’m not going to stiff people on the low end, either.
Are you whooshing me?
The point of the OP was just that fact, right? Bitching about a cost being passed on to the customers. “But it’s only 8 Million”
No, the OP said he was happy to have that cost passed on to him. It doesn’t seem to have been mentioned yet, but the real issue here is that Papa Johns’ workforce is virtually entirely made up of part-timers.
But here’s the thing – If Papa John’s just quietly raised the price of their pizzas by 15 cents, hardly anybody would even notice or care. It’s 15 freaking cents.
This way though, this blowhard CEO gets his company in the news, and I guarantee that for every lost sale, there’s at least another right-wing idiot eager to throw business his way, beacause he’s brave enough to speak the truth or some such shit. Sales will probably increase.
Or cut back to once a day on his tanning bed appointments.
I’m confused. Was there a bill introduced into Congress that would buy us all pizzas?
Because Colorado and Washington could totally go for that right now, bro.