Papa Johns - How do they manage to make some of the greatest pizza on earth?

They don’t. They don’t even make the best pizza in town. Far too sweet.

Schenectady has dozens of better places; the local one actually went out of business.

The rule for pizza is iron-clad: The quality of the pizza is inversely proportional to the number of restaurants in the chain.

Papa John’s pizza is pretty lousy, IMHO. However, their sides are awesome. Of the chains, they have some of the best garlic knots and cheese sticks. So, it’s a conundrum.

Pizza is nature’s most perfect food.

With a beer, it includes all four of the major food groups: Starch, carbohydrates, fat, and alcohol.

ProTip: Once you’ve received your delivery from Papa John’s, throw away the pie and eat the box.

I Live in St Louis, home of the CRAPPIEST style of pizza ever! I also run a “Mom and Pop’s” Pizzeria.
We sell REAL NY style Pizza, the only thing missing is the NY city water.

Papa Johns sucks…plain and simple. Canned mushrooms, REALLY?

FTR…We cold ferment dough (make it three days out), grate our own 100% whole milk Mozzarella, make our own sauce cut and chop all veggies fresh, cook and grind our own sausage and beef…
If your ever in St Louis come in and get some NY Pizza, by the slice or by the Pie!

Pizza with and attitude!

The nicest thing I can say about Papa John’s is that their pizza aspires to be mediocre.

The second nicest thing is that it is better than frozen pizza.

According to OP’s profile he lives in the St. Louis suburbs. This post suddenly makes a lot more sense because St. Louis pizza is fucking weird.

We don’t need a “Like” button, but how about a “Ditto” button, except you spelled Schenectady wrong, it should be “A-N-Y-W-H-E-R-E”.

I like St Louis style pizza, in that I like the cracker-style crust that doesn’t get in the way of the toppings. Not the biggest fan of provel cheese, but the place closest to us you can choose provel, mozzarella, or half/half.

I like other styles too. Just saying I like St. Louis style FTR.

I think you may have hit on a law of pizza - the quality of the pizza is inversely proportional to the number of sides on offer

The trend that I hope dies out quickly is the cracker crust and thin crust bullshit. Yuck!

I had New York style pizza in New York once and it was horrible. Papa John’s was even better than that and Papa John’s sucks.

I was raised with crappy pizza (think: the $1.19 Jeno’s frozen discs) and I really like Papa John’s about once a month. I also occasionally liked Little Caesar’s, until it became apparent that my local store was incapable of cooking the crust thoroughly – nothing like a mouthful of dough with your pepperoni :eek:

That said, living at the epicenter of good pizza I also like the regional pies such as the “Trenton tomato pie” and other good stuff.

That said, I also like the abomination of pineapple on pizza :smiley:

I hate their pizza. My son likes it though, and since I usually eat one slice, and he eats four, he usually gets to pick. There are three places I’d pick before Papa John’s. Two are local, and one is Pizza Hut. Actually, there are probably multiple places, but we don’t do much exploring, because the boychik is so enamored of PJ’s. Wait’ll I tell him the franchise gave money to Trump.

I think I’d like to know what you considered to be “New York Style” pizza in NYC. Did you wander into a Sbarro or La Famiglia or a dollar-slice place?

Frozen has better crunch.

And no waiting.

Why did you do that?

I grew up on St. Louis style pizza, and I like it a lot. I took my six year old to Imo’s just the other day! He loves it! I lived in New York for a few years and found the pizza I had there to generally be gummy and greasy. YMMV, of course. To be honest, though, I wasn’t in New York of my own accord, and I didn’t enjoy my time there. I’m still kind of averse to anything that advertises itself as “New York style”, because, fuck New York.

I’m fairly sure, but not 100% sure, I agree with this. Have you ever gotten up north to the Pizza Works in Burnt Hills? They’re worse than any other local pizza joint I’ve had, but still, they’re better than any national chain except old school Papa John’s. PJ’s suck now for some reason, but their combo of spices used to be superb. But I have to admit that Pizza Works is better than today’s Papa John’s.

What are the better Schenectady local pizza joints? I might try them some time if I am up to visit my mom and for some reason I don’t feel like visiting Jumpin’ Jacks.

To a certain extent, that’s true. Except there are plenty of standalone pizzerias offering lousy food. And meanwhile Frank Pepe Pizzeria Napoletana, one of the finest pizza restaurants in the world, has gone from one restaurant to two (but right next to each other) to nine, one each in in Massachusetts and New York and the rest in Connecticut.

Meanwhile, the OP’s claims about the superiority of Papa John’s Pizza surely demonstrate his/her lack of taste and good sense.

I was in NYC and went to a pizza place that wasn’t a national chain and got a slice of pizza, therefore it was New York-style pizza to me.