Paranormal experiences to SDMB Skeptics

Say, does anyone here listen to George Noory/Coast to Coast on the radio?

Im new here, and possibly one of the younger readers so you may find this psychic oddity rather laughable. Don’t feel bad, I do as well; what a wonderful waste for my one (remembered) prophetic dream.

Im horrid with placing dates with happenings, so I’ll just say that Im nearing my 20th birthday and this was shortly after ‘Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles’ showed the signs of major success. The prophecy in question relates to the toy line, which (like many boys of my age) I collected fanatically. I’d place this somewhere between the second and third assortments released, we had just begun to get more of the supporting (and oft-times single episode guest star) cast in toy form. Now that the setting is well… for lack of better words, set; I can relate the dream to you.

I (speaking in the loosest sense possible, when I actually take part in my dreams I rarely have any sense of self. I could easily explain my dream actions as being those of someone else, which I viewed via their point of view) was in a K-mart. No signs indicating it to be so, I just knew which store I was in despite the fact that it was quite different from any of the local stores. At the time, I couldn’t discern this reality as being any different than my ‘actual’ reality. I broke into a run for the toy aisle, oddly enough I knew exactly where it was. I began the hunt for new figures, typical childhood store ritual. The prophecy lies in the figures I found; a slightly larger than usual mosquito figure which looked like it was meant to be ridden (by what I cannot say, it wasn’t size to fit any characters I can recall), an ape in fatiques named ‘Sgt. Bananas’ and an Usagi Yojimbo wearing a gaudy yet teched out space suit- bubble helm and all.

The oddity lies here, all of these figures were eventually released; true to their dream forms except for the mosquito who was (in my dream) packaged in a plastic bag and smaller than the actual release (which was made to apropriate scale for the turtles, and packaged in an accessory box). While the mosquito was released shortly after my dream, the other two were at least six months apart and delayed a good year or so from the first foreseen toy.

I can try to explain this in a few ways, the first being commercials played during my regular cartoon viewings. That would reasonably explain the mosquito figure, though I can say that before the dream I had no knowledge of this character. Take it with a grain of salt if you must. Second way, toy catalog/included preview pamphlets; at their best, you could see 2 of the upcoming assortments like this. I -MAY- be able to explain space usagi via this method. Third, cartoon appearances and mental connect the dots; Seargent Bananas never appeared in the cartoon to my knowledge, in fact he was one of the very last toys in the series released.

Now for my question, why can’t I dream in this manner about the lottery?

to those who can’t place it tho- it’s what had been the Art Bell Show

Scott Dickerson said:

Um, no. Wrong. That’s not what I said nor is it what the scientists in question have found.

Personally, I would love to find out that I’m wrong about ESP and all the rest. I think it would be great. I would really like to know that when I die, some part of me will continue and I can come back to talk to live people.

Unfortunately, that’s not what the evidence says.

Precisely. And that’s why I seek out those very facts, because they are more important than what I would like to believe or what I would personally find comforting.

And I really hope you aren’t making the assertion that those who don’t believe in the paranormal “fear” it.

That’s up to you. But if you continue along the line you’ve started here, things don’t look very good.

I have never seen anything that threatens my essentially rational view of the world.

For example: I once saw a “psychic” demonstration. It seemed fairly convincing to me. I asked about it on these boards. Several resident magicians offered suggestions about how they would have performed it as a trick. End of “mysterious phenomenon.”

We were house-hunting at the time, and I had an extremely vivid dream one night, where I was in a distinctive room (had an odd hole in the wall, for storage and had a sloped roof, not an average room) that I had never seen before. I looke dout into the garden, and knew I’d be extremely happy living there.

A few days later, I was standing in that same room, as we inspected the second house for the day. I felt very shaken as I looked at the odd hole. We found out from the building report that it wasn’t a solid house and decided not to buy.

I know what I felt. The shock was real.

I’m also 100% sure my mind was playing tricks on me. I don’t know what actually happened, whether or not my mind tried to convince me that this room matched my dream room, or that it altered my memory of the dream room, but I am sure of two things. One, my shock was real and vivid, two, it didn’t actually happen. I have more faith in the idea that my brain had an electrical misfire, than I do in the idea that I could ‘see’ a room a few days earlier. YMMV.

DAVID B.

Your reaction to my humble post strikes me as a little more pugnacious than I deserved.

“…Others have personality types where it’s not such a big deal. So even though something weird might happen to them, they are not going to suddenly believe in the supernatural just because it can’t be explained at that very moment…” My interpretation was that these scientific studies have indicated the existence of two personality types, those prone to “supernatural” explanations when confronted with “something weird,” and those prone to dismissing explanations of that kind. You termed the latter a “personality type.” This suggests to me a bimodal distribution over the range, which is a not unexpected result for any identifiable deviance. It would be surprising if one could recognize a subpopulation with a bias toward X, yet find NO subpopulation with a bias opposed to X. (Not impossible, just surprising.)

I may have embarassed myself by misinterpreting, but mightn’t you have done a service to the board you moderate by clarifying what the scientists actually found, and with respect to what I went wrong? Instead, you offer a paragraph about what you yourself would love/like to believe.

“…That’s up to you. But if you continue along the line you’ve started here, things don’t look very good…”

The “line” I’ve “started here”?? I think you took the cited post of mine as a criticism of your contribution, and reacted by wagging a stern finger my way. I should have made clear that my remark about Randi v. Uri was a general observation. It seems to me–IMHO–that threads inviting people to share (so-called) paranormal/supernatural/spiritual personal experiences get away from the actual data (ie, what was experienced) way too fast, turning into yet another session of “MY belief=rational; YOUR belief=idiotic”. I assume that is not the purpose of this thread; nor do I think my brief comment on the significance of the study you mentioned turned it in that direction.

I would welcome FriarTed’s clarification of his purpose.

Scott Dickerson said:

Ah, well, that’s where you misunderstood. That’s not what I said. I didn’t say the second type was prone to dismissing explanations of that type, just that they can live with an “I don’t know” answer rather than making things up or believing in things without evidence.

Not being able to read minds (as much as I would like to :wink: ), I didn’t know that you had misinterpreted but instead thought you were twisting what I had said. Therefore I explained it in further detail to show where you had gone wrong. For example, your statement about people supposedly fearing the supernatural is something that skeptics like myself hear time and time again as a way of trying to dismiss us. So when I see a line like that, it sets off a “Warning Will Robinson” alarm in my brain. If that was not your intent, I apologize. However, I do have to admit I still don’t quite see where you got what you said from what I had said. <shrug>

I walked through a locked door once, having neglected to notice that it was there. When the people on the other side noticed I was inside, and the door still locked, they expressed surprise. Never did figure out what actually happened. Certainly something odd, but in the absence of a repeat, there’s no point in dwelling on it. Skepticism won’t make the event go away, and invoking angels and the like, can’t provide a testable explanation.

I’ve seen a UFO at 2:00 AM (yes, completely sober), and was with a friend who also saw it. I even asked her to describe it before I did, so as not to color her opinion. Yes, it turns out we both saw the exact same thing. It looked like no flying vehicle I have ever seen, military or civilian, and appeared to be flying very low over a medium size (80,000) town. It also had no lights on and was noiseless, but it was a clear night and clearly visible by moonlight. The reason I assumed it was flying very low is that for it to have been more than a few thousand feet up would have meant it was larger than a cruise ship, as it was quite large.

While I don’t have a clue what I saw, I’m pretty sure it was man-made, and not filled with little green or grey men with big anime eyes.

It was very cool looking though.

I saw the trangular light formations over Phoenix a few years ago,
here’s a googled link: http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports/phoenix_lights.html

It was pretty crazy.

My father, who has a Phd in physical chemistry and is not prone to flights of fancy saw a ghost in his living room when he was a boy, and it still scares the crap out of him.

He got up early in his parent’s house and went downstairs to the “parlour”. They lived in Liverpool in the UK.
Sitting in the armchair was the shadowy figure of a man, but with a dog’s head, with yellow eyes. It turned and looked at him. His sister, who was older than him (he was 10 at the time), walked in behind him and saw it too. They both ran screaming.

He still swears it’s true and can remember it well.
Kind of spooky.

I can’t remember anything off the top of my head because when something weird does happen that doesn’t have a ready, reasonable explanation I shrug and say “Just a coincidence.”
For example: One Saturday night I dreamt that the Denver Broncos were going to beat the Chiefs by a certain score—31 to 24.
The next day, the Broncos beat the Chiefs by 31 to 24. It was amazing! I’m psychic! I should go to Vegas and make millions!!!
Which is what I thought until I really started to think about it. Why would I dream about the Broncos/Chiefs? Well, because it was a very important game with play-off implications for a lot of teams and I’ve been worrying about it a lot. How did I know the Broncos would win? Because I always know the Broncos would win, besides, I had a 50/50 shot of being right. How did I know the final score? Well, this is a bit more tricky, and here is my stock answer just a coincidence. 31 and 24 are both pretty standard scores. And besides, if it was 28 to 24 or 45 and 12 I wouldn’t have remembered it to begin with, so it wouldn’t have been a big deal.
Like with most “psychic” things or “creepy” situations…it was just a coincidence.

Way back in English class in grade 9, the classroom heater had some type of belt-driven fan in it, and students would occasionally stuff paper in the top grill, and then it would make scratchy, fluttering noises until it got cleaned out. One day it was particularily noisy all class, and after some remarks about it, our teacher said something like “Well, what do you want me to do? Use my magic powers on it?” Of course, we all said yes, so she did this great stiff armed, zapping thing on it; imagine the Emperor in Star Wars. Very dramatic. It stopped right away, and she claimed she could never use her powers ever again. :slight_smile:

ScottD- no ulterior motive, I was just sincerely wondering if any of the outspoken skeptics/rationalists/materialists here have had any bizarre experiences which might give them momentary challenge. Heck, I’ll gladly admit that my faith gets assaulted on at least a monthly basis (tho remaining intact) G

kethnmick- Sooooo, more about the Phoenix Triangular Lights please!!!
What was it like? What do you think it was? (My guess is experimental aircraft.)

nfm

I had a wonderful pre-cal teacher in high school, the best math teacher I’ve ever had. We did a unit on probability, and he performed for us the same demonstration that he did every year:

He rolled a six-sided die 36 times. We counted the number of times it rolled a six. If it rolled 8 or fewer sixes, nothing happened. If it was 9 or 10 sixes, we got +3 points on our next test. 11 sixes got us +5, 12 got us +10, and so on. Our class got nine sixes.

He’d done this experiment for years, he told us. My older sister’s class had gotten 16 sixes during the experiment, a pretty rare occurence.

BUt for me, the more interesting thing was this: he told us that in all the years of running this experiment, no class had ever gotten fewer than six sixes.

It is, of course possible that memory failed him, or that he was prone to exaggeration (this is the same teacher who blamed his laxness on returning graded tests to us on alien abductions). But if he’s telling the truth, there’s certainly some funny probability going on.

Daniel

Check this thread.

my grandmother is a very religious woman.

when she heard that her cook’s son had been killed in the chimurenga war in zimbabwe and that his body had been abandoned in the bush outside the village for 3 days, her natural reaction was to pray to the virgin.

it seemed to work. when his mother arrived later that day to claim him, she maintains that he appeared to be sleeping.

3 days in the african sun, and no decay, neither had any animals attacked his body.

very odd.