Parts of town in the US that "even cops won't go into"- true or UL?

If they mentioned it, I can’t recall- I took it as the cop trying to impress the COPS cameraman. That whole episode, surprise, no one shot at them, and all of the drug sellers they tried to apprehend ran from them instead of shoot at them. The cop did mention some alleged drug baron who “owned” the neighborhood they were in, but the only injury of the night was a cop who cut his hand tackling a suspect.

In some notorious public “projects”, it’s difficult bordering on impossible to get a taxi to come pick you up at night.

Cops weren’t welcome at the Texas polygamy compound they just raided, but they seem to have overcome that. :slight_smile:

Bell bottoms, yes, tie dye, no.

Old school housing projects that were built in cities like Chicago and New Orleans among others were a fiasco from every angle including sociology, psychology, and criminal science. They concentrated crime yet semi-contained it much like a black hole. I won’t say that the police were afraid to step foot in those places if they had to but there was little point in trying to keep law and order there on a day to day basis.

A random foot patrol would turn up so much criminality that it was overwhelming and unworkable for individual officers. The solution literally required state legislatures, federal intervention, and bulldozers rather than beat cops. Most of that seems to have worked especially as they were destroyed.

France is experiencing similar problems with concentrated housing projects of poor Muslims and it is ending up the same way. Architectural sociology has an atrocious record in this area with gallons of blood on its hands. There were places where no law enforcement could make a significant difference.

Right, but since there are areas where a solo cop will not go, then perhaps it qualifies.

We have a “limited delivery area,” and a map of our delivery area in the store, so there is no ambiguity. Not surprisingly, most of the less-desirable neighborhoods in this city lie outside the boundaries of our area.

I don’t think cops were making themselves known in sections of Cabrini Green.

I know parts of DC were good to lose a car in because the law was not going in there for a simple stolen car.

East St Louis maybe.

Greenwich, a cop might come out of there with lockjaw and bermuda shorts.

When I was in my 20’s I knew young cops who likedworking in the most dangerous parts of town. They explained that is why they became cops and they seemed to get a thrill out of it. I agree that the worse nieghborhoods have the most cops driving around.

I was a pizza delivery driver for two different companies in two different cities. Niether one delivered to the housing projects and had other specific nieghborhoods that were off limits- too much harrassment from the locals and too many people not paying for their pizza.

When I was living in Murfreesboro, TN, I was told on several different occassions (independently and not with any prodding on my part) that there were areas of the projects that the police had been ordered not to enter.

From what I’ve read on the subject, the operation there has been entirely peaceful, minus the arrest of one person for impeding a search. Given that they’re turning the entire place upside-down and have removed some 400 people, I find it pretty impressive that there haven’t been any serious incidents.

I know wikipedia is not a good source for cites, but they do mention that Cabrini Green was often avoided by the police, simply because it was so hard to be safe given the design .

Who told you?

Cops.

I believe you but don’t get this- cops get a call of a armed fugitive holding someone hostage there, they just say fuck it?

When my grandfather drove a delivery truck in the 50’s for Gimballs, there were certainly areas of town he only went to at 9 AM or so.

Two points I’ll make.

  1. In my career as pizza girl (more than 50,000 deliveries to pay my way through Engineering school), we banned individual households, but never areas. And there were some bad areas, I mean the “13-year old answering the door with gun stuffed in his shorts and drugs out on the table” bad areas. Most of the time, however, all it took was some belligerent drunken large male screaming on the phone about how he was going to “sue” and how it was a violation of the “first amendment” (don’t ask) and sure enough the manager would send some poor driver right back out to the address. The pizza place was so greedy for money they would send drivers back to houses where they had actually been physically assaulted, and tell the driver “you don’t like it? Then you’re fired.”

  2. Those rooftop signs were a pain in the fucking ass, and tended to damage the paintwork. Mercifully, they stopped using them in my area when people started stealing them while the driver was at the door. Took all of about 2 months.

There’s also a difference between a cop won’t go into a 30 story housing project for a complaint of a loud stereo, and not going there to investigate a murder. You could just not go for the stereo because its a pain in the ass, especially if the elevators out.

When I worked for a “restaurant delivery service” in Memphis, TN, we didn’t go north of Jackson or south of Lamar. Not to say that the rest of the area didn’t include some rough areas, but those were distinct rules we had from the owners. Sadly, I think this was for reasons of safety and profit.

The old safety and profit spiel trotted out by a business owner yet again was it? Oh the humanity.