A friend (REALLY!) that smokes several times per day, quit his job and was asked to piss at nearly every auto shop he went to for a job. After 4 days of sipping vinegar he drank a Carbo-Clean shake the day of the test and passed.
Something either worked, don’t believe it was the vinegar, or they did not really test his sample. I have heard that the man may select 150 of 1,000, people to sample, and then only test perhaps 15 of the 150 samples.
I would rather be part of an idiot-free work place…
Don’t know about pot. Had a friend on a “no meth” probation. Had to test every week. Got busted again 6 months later and was told he had failed EVERY SINGLE TEST.
He tried everything from bleach to carbo-clean. Except, of course, QUITTING- which was the object. I never did figure out why they never told him he was testing dirty, or why they never rolled him up.
Ironic. I live on the Big Island. We grow the best pakololo this side of the Golden Triangle. Buds are about as big around as your thumb, and have so much THC that if you touch one it will stick to your finger. People smoke the stuff right out in public, no big deal. In fact, the state just legalized it if you have a prescription from a doctor or a recommendation from an herbalist. State law doesn’t supercede Federal law of course, but no one much cares.
They do drug tests at one or two corporations but for heroin and meth, not for THC. Everyone would fail, so they don’t bother.
Now what’s ironic? I tried it a couple of times and I hate it. I can get all I want for free but I don’t use.
tc, could we do some kind of eighties-era body switching thing? you can be judge reinhold and i’ll be fred savage. and then we’ll switch for a few days. after some time under the beautiful sun surrounded by tropical beauty and smoking buds that are so resinous that they’re a gel, sure, i’ll come back here no problem. i swear. what, you seem to not believe me?
Oh, SURE I believe you. And, I’d be happy to do it, too. But I have a pretty heavy dating schedule for the next few months so I can’t leave just now. Besides, I kinda like the weather and the diving here, and who would take my boat out fishing?
TC can I get your body after JB. please?please? pretty please with sugar on top? and marshmallows too?
Not so much for the pot, since I rarely smoke these days, but for the dates, and BTW I would guard your boat with my life when I went out fishing
Ishi, there are a lot more people here who apparently have a lot more knowledge and info on the subject than myself, and it is certainly good to hear as much as you can from as many
as you can. It can be a scary thing, taking a drug test when you’ve been using. I don’t know if they can tell whether you’ve been using various detox products, but it certainly seems plausible.
However, I promise and give you my word from experience, I have beaten about 3 or 4 tests using Naturally Klean tea, each where i’ve smoked much pot (among other things) 2 days before, (never ever do anything the night before, duh!, though it doesn’t seem to be an issue with you since you haven’t used in at lest a couple weeks IIRC). I got busted (in such a stupid way, but isn’t that always the case) during my freshmen year of college and was sentenced to 2 years of random drug tests, (every fuckin Mon Wed and Fri for 2 years I had to wake up in the morning and call a phone #, and if my assigned code # was on the voice mail, I had to report in for a whiz quiz that evening). Over the course of those 2 years I had about 3 or 4 tests (I don’t remember) and in each case used Naturally Klean teas as directed (follow the instructions to a T) took vitamin B (to put color back in the urine, BTW buy and take extra Vitamin B, they give you some in the box, but I found it was never enough, take it hours before you even start drinking the tea, then one while you’re drinking it). I never had a problem.
I hope this helps.
I too was in your same boat, i.e., probation for a DUI and random tests. While I gave up the evil weed years ago, others in the program didn’t. The few that I got to know who used only used sporadically, like you. We all got tested (myself only once in a year’s time)and the user’s who failed would not be immediately 'hauled before the judge’like the aforementioned post warned. Instead, probation warned the person and stepped up the testing. That’s it. They give you some slack in these programs because they’re ovewhelmed with DUI offenders and don’t have the resources to bog down the courts with follow-ups.
My advice to you: Don’t sweat it, but don’t take advantage of it either. Mellow out on the weed long before a test, let them see that you’re a do-gooder and then they’ll leave you alone. Go from there.
Having been on the other side of your situation ( I was a parole officer), I can tell you this : Many people walked out of my office with an appointment at a drug program after they admitted using , but no one left without handcuffs if they denied using and then tested positive.
I can also tell you a few other things. At least some tests tests for adulterants and chemicals that should be found in normal urine at certain concentrations. If adulterants are found, or if the chemicals are found in lower than normal concentrations (if,say you drank a lot of water to dilute your urine), it’s reported. That’s like a big red flag that says “He’s afraid it’s going to be dirty”.Also with THC,since it does hang around for a while, it’s possible to tell from the level is the use is ongoing ( if use has stopped, the level goes down, if it doesn’t, there’s been more use between tests.Also, using another person’s urine is not such a good idea, because you really don’t know if it’s clean. ( I did have someone try to pass off another person’s positive urine once that I know of)
I don’t know if this will help or not but my current boyfriend is a probation officer with a very high rate of convictions (i.e. sending people to jail for violations). he regularly tests his “clients” at least once a month- sometimes more sometimes less- he keeps it pretty random so they can’t try and clean up before the “Whiz Quiz.”
Now, because I have experienced certain substances before and during this relationship I asked how long do the substances, especially pot, stay in your system and can be accurately detected. The type of tests he uses in his office can detect trace amounts of marijuana up to 30 days following inhalation or ingestion. Cocaine, LSD, and certain amphetamines have a shorter time span. Alcohol within five to six days. His tests will also pick up on prescription medications (Xanax, Demerol, Ritalin, etc.)And the tests can differentiate between the different forms of drugs, showing exactly what chemicals are present in human urine.
Also, his tests can detect any alterations (i.e. bleach, drano crystals, alcohol, and the masking kits you can find at drug stores and health food stores). Honestly, I find this very creepy that the tests are that high tech.
Needless to say, if he ever comes to me with that little plastic cup, he’s history.
doreen say’s;
“it’s possible to tell from the level is the use is ongoing ( if use has stopped, the level goes down, if it doesn’t, there’s been more use between tests.”
Well, doreen, this isn’t always true. In my case, and in others that I’ve read about, the levels of metabolites can fluctuate greatly. Even many weeks after the last use.
I was still testing positive 8 weeks after my last use, and the levels did rise and fall.
My best advice, Ishi Pishi, is to leave the stuff alone and work to get these idiotic laws repealed. Then maybe we, as adults, can enjoy our free time as we see fit.
Peace,
mangeorge
Ishi,
I work in a hospital lab that performs drug testing. The substance that they’re going to be looking for is called THC-50. Ironically, it has one of the longest half-lives of any of the drugs of abuse and comes from what is arguably the mildest drug. If you’re a heavy user (3-5 joints per week for at least several weeks running) it will stay in your system for somewhere in the neighborhood of two weeks. Your solution is simple. Quit for about a month before you take the test. Take it from me. The kits are bullshit. We test for adulterated samples and can pick up most anything that people try. The success stories with the kits are usually due to people overestimating how long THC-50 stays in your system. “I smoked 3 months ago, used this kit, and didn’t get caught!” Best of luck.
-LabRat
ps. If you want to thank me for the advice, don’t show up at work high.
OK, I work in a lab and test urine for drugs. Nothing is 100% going to let you pass if your employer really wants you off all drugs. The only strict employers I know of are airlines and railroads. Most are just testing because of insurace.
Follow the advice of Moe and Sofa King. They know what they are talking about. Generally all the magic stuff sold is crap. The key is water (or tea). If your pee is 99.9% water its harder to find anyting in it.
About false positives. The newer testing equipment is much better than it was 20 years ago, and there are few false positives, especially for THC. There are very expensive test s that have no false positives, but few companies are willing to pay for these. To the best of my knowledge thare are no false positives for THC even in the cheap test. False positives are more common for benzos, PCP, and opiates.
Poppy seed will give you a false positives for opiates because they are the same stuff. Poppy seeds-opium-heroin-morphine are all the same family of compounds.
Can anyone tell me the approximate time that a test takes to come back positive/negative (let’s assume it’s the EMIT test, since that seems to be the most widly used)? After I pee in the cup, how long will it be before I know one way or the other? Is it a matter of a few minutes, or does the sample have to be sent to an off-site lab for analysis? Just curious.
There are some that give the results in a few minutes (like a pregnancy test),but I think most of the time it’s sent out, and I’m pretty sure EMIT has to be done at a lab. How long it takes for you to find out probably depends on a number of different variables- how often samples are sent to the lab ( every day or once a week),how long they take to get there , and how quickly and by what method the lab sends the results back ( mailed or faxed).One lab my agency used almost always took at least two weeks to get the results back, even though the samples were picked up daily. Eventually, it started taking closer to a month, then that lab lost the contract, and the new lab (although much further away) seems to be getting the results back within a week.