AFAIK, no. She was rather a private person, and beyond family and one or two close friends including me, didn’t advance any claims about it – for approximately the same reasons as people are loath to report U.F.O. sightings, IMHO – though all you’re
doing is stating your own experience, it paints you as “just another one of those nuts” – a role I know she would be repelled by.
I read your experience and am familiar with it, at least from my own experiences. It brought you to the state of love, you found the devine, it is love. If you are looking for the devine in human shape you will be disappointed. There is no need for shape in the spirit world, but that is another story.
No, I will not attempt to prove reincarnation exists. Personal experiences are not repeatable, can not be examined under the microscope. I know that others do try to prove reincarnation exists.
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1740
You will find one here and there are many more to be found on the search engines. I don’t understand why science thinks they can discover everything in the world using their physical methods.
I don’t believe it will ever happen.
In answer to the last question, yes, I think most people are satisfied with being told they were Napolean, or a King or Queen, however, I still doubt that form of recovering past lives is valid. As for speaking the language of the past live, I have read some that did, We had a handicapped girl here in my city years ago that could read and write Japanese, she had never had any contact with the language or the people during her short life.
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I’ve seen both terms used in this thread which made me wonder, are Past Life Regression and Reincarnation synonymous or are there some details in there that make them different?
No they are not synonymous. Reincarnation refers to coming back to live another life here on earth. Past Life Regression refers to a method of remembering the reincarnations through the use of hypnosis.
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So, a very eccentric and high tech male billionaire dies intestate and his body is frozen. 30 years later, there are four applicants for his enormous estate:
1- his young adult clone (did I mention that the billionaire was Raelian?)
2- a 20 something young woman whose past life regression tells her she was the billionaire (and who gives details about his life and house, etc., that prove correct but only the billionaire would know)
3- a robot whose “brain” contains a silicon replica of the billionaire’s brain, able to reconstruct every thought and memory the billionaire ever had (Google the words “kurzweil” and “reinstantiation” for more details)
4- the lawyers representing the cryogenically frozen body, which while legally dead was frozen with the notion that it might one day be revivable
Who should get the money?
Actually, the above should be it’s own “Stupid Debate”, but since there’s not a forum for that, I’ll put it in Great Debates.
I read the thread a tad fast, but I’ll jump in anyway. For what it’s worth here is my story, or should I say my testimonial, mostly in reply to the OP.
I’ve done the regression therapy, actually I’m doing the regression therapy right now. She’s not really a psychic, well then again maybe she is but she also is psychologist. I’ve tried many therapies in my life, they (the shrinks) always went the same route… confront your parents, you must have repressed memory. I would quite at that point, I was not abused and never thought I was, misunderstood yes of course but not abused, anyhoo. I found this psychiatrist with works with hypnosis. I gave it a try, so we went back into my childhood, which was not bad and there was no abuse. Then we had a session where she discussed with me past lives therapy and asked my feelings on that. I told her I was open to it, that I was willing to try anything. So I did.
I still sometimes wonder if it’s true or not. But what I can say for sure is that the feelings are real and that I am much better then I’ve even been in years. So of what I have discovered made sense in my life today. I have to believe that it’s not just my imagination (cause if it is I should be writing for the movies and be filthy rich!!) that there is a connection.
I don’t believe that we should be remembering events per se but feelings. It also explains uncontrollable fears that can’t be linked in this lifetime. Those are my beliefs, I obviously have no scientific proof for this but then again I have always believed that science can’t prove everything. The one thing I know for sure is that I feel better (yeah for me!) and that I have to keep an open mind about what I’m doing…
Great post Jools
I think the ladies make the better counselers, more empathetic.
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I interpret that idea rather differently. To me, it makes sense that people who have seen movies about ancient Egypt, etc., would, when creating a memory during a regression, draw on those movies and TV shows and books for source material.
Leroy: Out of interest, what had the handicapped girl written once you had had it translated, and which period of Japanese history had she supposedly previously lived in?
Your website was merely another anecdote, again giving no reason to believe it was any more than such.
Yet again, I agree: SCIENCE CAN’T PROVE EVERYTHING, it requires something observable to test. It appears you agree that there is nothing science can test for regarding past life regression.
It started when the girl translated a framed, decorative sign a councelor brought back from her trip to Japan, went from there to the local university where they found a teacher fluent in Japanese and her and the girl exchange words until the teacher was dumbfounded why the girl knew Japanese. It made a good human interest story in the paper, and much discussion in the elite circles of the city. The girl was so badly handicapped she had never left the care facility in all of her life. No Japanese workers there nor anyone who knew the language.
We could not live without anecdote which is defined in the dictionary as facts, at least one definition.
To use your words: Science can’t prove everything, but that don’t mean it ain’t real and true. The religious folks believe if it ain’t in the Bible it’s not real. Science believes if it can’t be proven it ain’t real. Both statements are false assumptions.
There is more to this world than you or I can even imagine.
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NO, IT DOES NOT. Please stop misrepresenting the skeptic viewpoint, since I am extending every effort not to misrepresent or denigrate yours in any way.
I am very interested in the girl’s story, although of course you understand that I have no way of knowing whether it contitutes something naturally inexplicable. Again, if I may ask some further questions:
What was her name?
What was the nature of her handicap or condition (you implied it was terminal)? Could she speak and write English at a level roughly appropriate to her age?
Could you give contact details of the care facility, the university and the Japanese teacher?
Did the decorative sign give any indication of its meaning other than the text?
Please understand that I am not trying to “catch you out”. I am merely trying to show that I really don’t simply dismiss every case out of hand. And hey, if this leads to the $1M and the Nobel Prize, I’d be glad to share it with both you and the girl’s family.
I agree wholeheartedly. Our difference lies in whether anything supernatural exists or has ever happened.
I think asking for evidence from a man who whould rather believe his dreams to the point of deliberately ignoring science and fact is useless. He idea of “evidence” is anything, no matter how silly, that already supports his beliefs.
Wouldn’t it be wild if we learned there’s a particular energy pattern in thought waves that’s essentially like DNA for spiritus? Then we could test and say “yep, you were a Bulgarian prostitute, three Asian peasants, and a Brazilian shaman in past lives. At the rate you’re heading, looks like you’ll reincarnate as an Osmond in about 9 and 1/2 mon…WATCH OUT FOR THAT FALLING LAB MONITOR!”
The best books I’ve ever read on past life regression, btw (which is not to imply I agree with them):
SEARCH FOR A SOUL (Jess Stearn)- an indescribably bizarre account of the lives of novelist Taylor Caldwell, including an incarnation as a concubine of the archangel Darios
THE REINCARNATION OF JOHN WILKES BOOTH by Dell Leonardi (self explanatory)
Patton was famous for his detailed past life memories (always military, from a Neanderthal battling for meat to an American Civil War officer).
…or…maybe you could check out the other end of the spectrum:
http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/challenge.htm
“A reward of one million Australian dollars is offered to any sceptic anywhere in the world who can rebut and refute beyond absolute all the evidence for the existence of the afterlife.”
How many times must we admit that ** YOU CANNOT PROVE A NEGATIVE** of this nature?
There is no need to prove a negative. The site very clearly spells out the conditions for the challenge. In general you must succesfully rebut the existing evidence of “afterlife”.
Should be simple for a science-based skeptic to do…right?
Have at it boys…(and.or girls of course)
From the website:
Ok, first show me what “evidence” there is of the afterlife. :wally
I’m sorry, I didn’t see this. Apparently, Milton Bradley has proof too:
http://www.victorzammit.com/book/
Opening statement
Respected scientists who investigated
Electronic voice phenomena (EVP)
Instrumental transcommunication (ITC)
Scole experiments prove the afterlife
Einstein’s E=mc2 and materialization
Other psychic laboratory experiments
Scientific observation of mediums
Leonore Piper, a most powerful American medium
Materialization mediumship
Helen Duncan
Direct voice mediumship
Modern mediums who confound the skeptics
The Cross Correspondences
Proxy sittings
Out of Body Experiences
Remote Viewing
Science and the Near Death Experience
Science and apparitions
Deathbed Visions
The Ouija Board
Xenoglossy
Poltergeists
Reincarnation
Answering the closed minded skeptics
Closing statement: summing up the objective evidence
What happens when we die?
Bibliography
Glossary
If you are too lazy to study the evidence as listed in the terms and conditons of the challenge, then you fail to clear the first hurdle.
From the website:
" 1. Stage One - Initial submission.
Because there have been applicants who wasted a great deal of our precious time and money who had not examined the evidence in detail it has become essential and a pre-requisite that prior to any actual submission of any rebuttals of the evidence in Stage Two of the Challenge, a potential applicant must initially submit to the offeror a detailed exposition of how the applicant is going to rebut the evidence outlined in the above Preface. "
Don’t waste my time either.