Ummm, this is the Pit.
According to my copy of Style Manual for authors, editors, and printers (Sixth Edition), published by J. Wiley & Sons, (and which also happens to the official Manual of Style for the Commonwealth Government) doesn’t specifically mention how to deal with commas between two object of a verb, but does say:
To put it another way: It’s unlikely any editor in this country would ping someone for using a comma between the two objects of a verb.
I see this all the time. Where I work we have students come in and answer a question of the day on the white board. Other students are allowed to write comments on other people’s answers. One girl will always write in the worst way possible. For example, when the question was a long the lines of “If you have the choice, what kind of animal would you be and why” and somebody had replied that they would be a panda, her response was like “so yew wanna b black n white? that is so kewl!”
I hate looking at writing like that. It’s like the visual equivalent of nails on a chalkboard to me. Is it like that with anyone else here or just me?
No. Making occasional mistakes in orthography, which happens to all of us from time to time, doesn’t mean that you’re not entitled to complain about other people’s not even attempting to use proper orthography.
If the OP or Contrapuntal or anyone else Pitted another poster for inadvertently misplacing a comma, you’d be quite justified in getting up in their shit about excessive pedantry. But what confission is being Pitted for is his deliberate refusal to even try to use capital letters properly.
confission evidently believes that the fact that omitting capital letters makes it easier for him to type is more important than the fact that it makes it harder for others to read. Screw that lazy, arrogant, inconsiderate mindset.
I still don’t understand… Oh, wait.
You should work on your own writing style before criticizing others’ style.
or
You should work on you own writing style before criticizing the style of others.
Aaaahhh, that’s better. Like a fresh piece of chewing gum, it is.
Precisely. Let’s not pretend that the occasional misplaced comma and the complete refusal to follow any grammatical rules are the same thing. One is an error in good faith, and one is a gigantic “fuck you” to the rules of civilized adult discourse.
omitting capital letters is a gigantic “fuck you”? lol, fuck you, I guess.
No, thanks. I have better taste. If you can’t bothered to use capital letters, I can’t be bothered to fuck you.
Hmmm, well this explains why e. e. cummings and k. d. lang produce such morose work at times …
My life is complete.
you are a pretentious ass, barney fife
and if you can’t BE bothered to go back and make sure you have not left out any words in your posts, i can’t BE bothered to read your nonsense
That is one well dressed apostrophe, sir.
If I must choose, I’d rather be perceived as a pretentious ass than an illiterate oaf.
From M-W’s online dictionary:
You’re welcome.
You said that you care what rules people follow as to punctuation and grammar when posting because using “proper” punctuation and grammar makes it easier to understand. But then you, yourself, failed to live up to that standard. What you **really **want is for people to use the **Contrapuntal **standard of punctuation and grammar, i.e., write things in such a way that you can understand them but not necessarily adhering to any objective style guide. Which would be fine if that was what you said, but instead, you just failed horribly. Oh, so horribly.
Your quote is talking about coordinate clauses. If you note, every single example has multiple predicates (because that’s what a clause is; without a verb, it’s not a clause). The sentence in question involves **direct objects **(as phrases). Perhaps you’d like to get a better grasp of sentence structure before wading into the fray.
Here’s a simple sentence that better illustrates the problem:
I ate an apple, and a pear.
You seriously think no editor would have a problem with that comma?
I just enjoy poking people with sticks for yelling at others for doing what they themselves fail to do.
I don’t disagree that it makes it harder to read. You know what? If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Take those lowercase posts as a cue to just skim right by. Just don’t come in here decrying youth today having no understanding of grammar, punctuation, etc. with a post that clearly displays your own ignorance.
ETA: That last was a general “you” and not you, specifically, Kimstu.
that is precisely why you are a pretentious ass, agassi
image IS NOT everything
Word.
Okay, well then I’d rather actually be a pretentious ass than an illiterate oaf.
Image isn’t everything, but it’s not nothing. You don’t get to claim that you don’t care what other people think, and then whine when they don’t think well of you.
Winner!
Sorry, I mean:
winner!
it all depends on who the “other people” are
because…to look good to an asshole, you have to BE an asshole