Peace, you are a worthless piece of shit, and a liar to boot.

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by peace *

A few reactions:

Oh, please. “The nature of this place” is people fighting ignorance. Thus far, machines are tools, not responsible posters. Unique ploy, though.

Within limits, peace. Your definitions are yours, not those of the SDMB, the Reader or those providing your “entertainment medium”.

No, actually no one here is obligated to accept that–especially given your notable return of the courtesy. Hey, “Hal”, you could be a computer, right? No one, no one is dealing face to face (“in person”) here; we only have words to judge by. Though one radical concept might be assuming other posters could possibly be human beings too.

[QUOTE} More fun. My humor could occasionally be hurtful, especially for people without the sense of humor.[/QUOTE]

Here’s a simple concept: humor might sting, but it also heals through laughter. If people aren’t laughing, you might want to consider maybe you’re attacking more than healing.

Just for perspective…this place values free expression. But that entails living by your words–and heart and integrity. Communication isn’t just talking and “having readers”; it’s making sense to other people.

Veb

My first urge was to ignore this thread, and then I saw that even Gaspode softened his position. So, here I am.
I accept some of the criticisms, reject others. I will make an effort to become softer and more understanding. Sometimes I am guilty of not being smart enough, for instance, by not realizing that some may envy my broad expertise or my chutzpah. I naively thought that if somebody wants to know and I have the answer, I would give it. At times, I use reigns on myself. There was a question recently about RNA. I thought that I knew about RNA much more than that lady and could answer the question. And I would, if I saw, that there were no answers for two days. But within a few hours, she received more answers than she needed to pass “Cellular biochemistry 101”. My answers would not have been as good as the ones posted. So, I proceeded to reading next question. And this is a good example of my philosophy here, in general. Which is:

This MB is free. Anyone can ask a question. Anyone can answer it. No qualifications required. The asking party could be a middle school pupil. The responding party may have three post-doctoral degrees. The answering party may read the answer and question it or may ignore it. Everyone has his own rules. I may try to bend mines if the topic is interesting, etc. There are limits, though. For instance, if someone says: “Traits, acquired during life, are not inherited, but…”, I will probably skip to the next paragraph, to save my time.
If I write: “During its rotation around the Earth, the Sun…”, you may skip to the next thread. There is nothing that will make me read a post or to respond to it, if I do not want to. By the same token, anyone can completely ignore everything I say. Or they may take it to the Pit, which has its entertaining value. Again, the same rules apply…
If somebody’s opinion about this site is different, I’d like to know about it.

Don’t allow your self-delusion to lead you to believe for a second that I have softened my position you ignorant twerp. I never called you a fool or a liar in the first place and I simply wanted to make certain that no-one inadvertently thought I was agreeing with the Majors OP. I’m not saying that I don’t agree, just that I’ve never given anyone grounds to believe so, though I’m beginning to change my opinion.
You truly are a cretin. I don’t want you to become softer or more understanding. I want you to either start behaving like a civilised human being, a task that has managed to defeat you up til now, or fuck off.
I will alter my stance somewhat, I stated that you did not have enough knowledge to be dangerous. You have acquired no more knowledge but your arrogance has made you a menace.
You didn’t naively think that if someone wants an answer you would give it. You arrogantly assumed you had the right answer and then proceeded to state opinions in direct contradiction to those of others with no attempt to be tactful. You have all the social graces and manners of a maggot. Listen and try to learn something. The following is not in this society acceptable ways of joining an ongoing conversation under any circumstances.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=49771

As usual! For crying out loud. Do you honestly believe everyone around here requires you to correct them.

This is even less acceptable
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=49753

You’ve got to be Trolling, right?

If you truly believe that if someone wants an answer you should give it then our thread in GD is still open and I’ve got at least 10 questions there you haven’t felt compelled to answer yet. For that matter Collounsbury’s thread is still open with questions you seem unable to respond to. And of course we have an ongoing discussion in GQ where I wait with baited breath for your facts revealing why you know that that is no God. Not suspect or believe, but actually know.

Envy your expertise? What expertise, you have so far failed to respond to requests for what your field of expertise is on at least two threads. Neither I nor anyone else has seen you demonstrate any expertise in any field aside from self-aggrandisement, you irritating pillock.

So for once you deemed that you should not criticise the opinions of others. What are you expecting, applause.

No one here objects to anyone answering or posting questions, but if you are to be accepted anywhere you should realise there are correct rules of behaviour intended to minimise offence. They’re called manners. Got that English dictionary yet you semi-literate baboon? If not find one and look it up. Your poor grasp of English is no excuse for failing to make the attempt to correct your glaring personality defects, and your ignorance is no excuse for your loutish behaviour. To date your bad manners have been exceeded only by your bad manners

However I’ll try once more.
A liberal sprinkling of the following through your posts would make you at least a little less offensive. Use them
“I believe”, “I suspect”, “My opinion is”, “I have been told”, “My experience leads me to believe”, “A very convincing argument, however the following facts suggest to me”

I re-iterate Peace, when every post you appear on results in your causing offence and you cease to modify the behaviour that causes it you are either doing it on purpose, or you are a fool. Look around. Struth 1740 views and 61 responses for a personal flame in The Pit. Does that tell you something.
You are either a Troll or a barbarian, I’m not certain which though my money is on Troll. Either way I’m not here to play D&D, so I’ll repeat myself as I so often find it necessary to do in any discussion that involves you.

Get a clue or fuck off.

Testes are most definitely not “liquid on the inside”.

I think people may have had a confusing episode with Chewels.

Although testes (enervated with vascular tissue like any other tissue) are wet, they are soft, spleen like in consistency and have septae that look like orange sections when sliced horizontally. They are also very slippery when not inside the scrotum.

I have no idea how many kbs/sq. in. of pressure it would take to squish a testes. Although I don’t have them, I have a great respect for them. I would never really want to know… My advice (wear a cup if you’re that concerned.)

Now the main question is, of the major and peace, who has the bull’s balls to end this silly patter.

PS let me know if citation is not sufficient…blah

Dear Gaspode,
I am not be coming for your five-o’clock-tea today, as previously arranged.

I truly enjoy your tantrums, though, please carry on!

I am too lazy and too busy to peruse all your posts as you do mine, but I copied a few lines from your last one:
Q:I want you to either start behaving like a civilised human being, a task that has managed to defeat you up til now, or fuck off.
Two comments:

  1. I’m afraid that you are out of bloody luck here, because I will do what I want, not what you want.
  2. How are you going to enforce your last command, the one following “or”. What if I stick?

Q:For that matter Collounsbury’s thread is still open with questions you seem unable to respond to.

I explained many times and might only repeat: anyone can open as many threads here as the moderators permit (or ask questions). Anyone can respond. Or ignore. Nothing you can do about it. Capisce?

Lastly, you went out of your way criticizing my English. There are a few people here whose English is truly remarkable, I really reread their posts, so much I enjoy the language. You, on the other hand, strike me as one not caring much about your mother tongue.

I remember when the Brits dictated their will to others. Times changed.

Q:You are either a Troll or a barbarian,
I want you to lose, so I am a barbarian, or a Barbarian, if you prefer. Fuming?

Man oh man oh man.

What a fucking waste of pixels you are, peace.

Round and round the mulberry bush!

OK. I was going to keep quiet but can remain so no longer.

In peace’s comments on the prostate, burning out your kidneys, and tetanus injections, he has demonstrated either a lack of understanding of basic medical concepts, a total disregard for them, or both. More importantly, he has shown that he is a bumptious bastard in innumerable threads, many of which have mentioned in this thread.

peace, two things: 1. Keep quiet when you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and 2. Exercise some common courtesy.

I hadn’t opened two of those threads. Some of Peace’s quotes (about more knowledgable people) were particularly enjoyable.

[QUOTE}I’ve gotten into a company of purists[/QUOTE]

Anyway, I hope it is clear in my above post that I was calling Peace a piece of shit (to boot). Don’t make up some insulting blather, don’t act like an arrogant pedant, don’t agree with the opposite you of what you said and call it philosophy. And for Pete’s sake, please don’t pass judgment on something you don’t know anything about – the Merck Manual or an “impressive” (self-evident?) differential diagnosis.

Was there a difficulty in translation here?

Vas-t-en, cretin. Bobo. Dummkopf. Mascalzone. Va-se paro a diabo. Schoft. Ga din vej! [doo-RAK]. Izgubi se! Glupiec! Boland. Timpitule. Ahmak. Vee stay gloop. [Gwen dahn]. Baka. Berhenti! Kon gnaw. [ee-heh ha-SHIM-nee-ka]. Ten thousand thundering typhoons!

I explained many times and might only repeat: anyone can open as many threads here as the moderators permit (or ask questions). Anyone can respond. Or ignore. Nothing you can do about it. Capisce?

Even Gaspode dug it by know.

I dunno, peace, it is possible that posting “Me too” just to portray yourself as a martyr is more likely to get you laughter than sympathy:

How do you set broken ribs?, 12-09-2000 02:18 PM

(Feel free to pick your own posting style, of course.)

I know this is really perverse and demented, but I have an almost overwhelming desire to find a topic on which JDT and peace hold opposing views, start a thread on it and watch them “debate” the issue using assertions as fact and anecdotes as data.

Upon reading last night that English is not peace’s native language, my son’s response was “neither is logic”. Unfamiliarity with English, peace, is not an excuse for disemminating incorrect information - bullshit is still bullshit whether it’s spoken in English, Swahili, or Urdu.

At the risk of sounding like Joe Mc Carthy :

Peace, are you now undertaking, or have you ever undertaken a formal, recognised course of study in any of the scientific disciplines in any nation on this planet?

The relevance of the question? While you use the jargon of science and imply that you have science-based “expertise” of some kind, your arguments/debates are conducted in a totally illogical and unscientific manner. Worse, when you condescend to provide cites - rather than dismissing the necessity to do so because “the facts are well-known”, you come up with no better references than I myself could provide (and I most emphatically do not have any formal scientific or medical training) given 2 minutes and a search engine. My point? I spent over 10 years caring for terminally ill people. Out of sheer necessity I became extremely familiar with a lot of medical terms and procedures. I also read as much as humanly possible about the diseases concerned in order to better understand their progression and the optimum way to care for people with those diseases. NONE of the knowledge I gained in this time makes me anything more than a well-informed layman, and I certainly would not presume to comment on medical matters without first revealing the limitations of my knowledge. You seem to have no such compunction.

I wholly concur with Gaspode. It is not your ignorance which makes you a menace and has engendered the hostility of this board, it is your arrogance.

You seem totally unable to concede the possibility of anyone on this board having greater knowledge of a subject than you do - even when they clearly demonstrate their greater command of the subject with logical argument and impeccable citations.

The only subject that you allow anyone may have a greater grasp of than yourself is the English language - and unfortunately, your admission of your incompetence in this area comes across more as a cop-out designed to justify your inability to support your arguments than it does as a concession that you might not be the world’s greatest living authority on every subject known to humanity.

I sincerely hope that I never have the “privilege” of having you support my viewpoint in any of the great debates about religion or abortion. You see, while I might hold different opinions on those issues than people who believe in God and people who are pro-life, I believe that those people’s opinions are every bit as valid as my own, and I am genuinely interested in understanding the reasoning behind those opinions.

I really hope you are a troll, because the alternative is that you are a delusional psychotic who hasn’t taken his medication in a very long time. Unfortunately your ability to make yourself sound like you know what you’re talking about, coupled with your apparently unrestricted internet access makes you a real danger to people who may accept your self-proclaimed “expertise” at face value and follow your advice in matters medical/scientific. So piss or get off the pot. If you have some basis on which to claim “expertise” then reveal it; if you do not, then stop representing yourself as any kind of expert and admit - that like many of us on this board - you know something about quite a few subjects and have strong opinions about many of them, but you have no greater claim to “expertise” in fields in which you do not hold recognised qualifications than I do.
Not only will you gain a great deal more respect on this board for being honest about the limitations of your knowledge, when you stop trying to defend unsupportable arguments you might actually learn some facts from those people on this board who are experts in their fields.

Us Aussies have a word for people like you peace - the word is “wanker”; I suspect you’ll be encountering it frequently from now on.
wanker

Reprise, tx.
You held almost to the end, held without insults, I mean.
I was given free access to this MB, no questions asked. If I knew that you guys, cherish formal education and academic degrees as much as you do and would repeatedly require confirmation, I’d thought twice. I never implied anything, never pretended to be anything different from what I appear: an arrogant opinionated poorly educated illiterate wanker. I could say that I had a few advanced degrees and that I won a Nobel Prize a few years ago. Or I could say that I am a high school dropout, with some home schooling. On this MB I express my opinions. You may accept it or reject it or ignore it. If I am wrong, will my degrees make me right?
I know that I tend to make logical leaps, especially if the issue is clear to me, because I erroneously assume that it’s clear to others. But I do not think that the rules of scientific peer review journals should also apply here.

Today a guy asked a question about starting a car. I happened to know the answer and I posted it. Nobody contradicted it. If somebody said that he was making or fixing cars for years and said that I was wrong because…XYZ, I’d shut up, if he convinced me. I’d shut up if he convinced me without revealing his background. But if he said something similar to Major “liquid testicular center”, I’d point to it and quit, even if he added that he dissected dozens of cars in college.

There are some very intelligent people here. I enjoy reading their logical posts. I may agree or disagree with their conclusions. I can check their facts myself. I will request references only if I can’t find them myself or, rarely, if they strike me as totally unrealistic. I never demand to see author’s shingles.

Finally, I would like to know where your son found me illogical. I would gladly try again. If he is interested, of course.

As I’m sure you’re aware peace, there are certain rules relating to posting in each of the fora on this message board. It has been pointed out to you more than once, that people who choose to post responses in Great Debates and in General Questions should be prepared to back up their posts with cites.

The reason people keep challenging you about your formal qualifications is because you are all over threads relating to science and medicine, and you do try to create the impression that you have expertise in these fields. A statement that you are not licensed to practise medicine in a particular state implies that you are licensed to practise medicine somewhere. And if you did not deliberately set out to create that impression, then you have ample opportunity to clarify the extent of your medical knowledge and how it was acquired. You are well aware of having created the impression; some of your assertions in medical threads have been corrected by people who are qualified in the field and who are concerned that the “opinion” you gave was both wrong and potentially harmful (strange, at the time I don’t recall you saying “I have no medical training whatsoever, but for what it’s worth this is my unprofessional opinion”). In both the “prostate thread” and the “tilted uterus” thread, you made statements which implied you were speaking from a position of expertise; you even argued with qualified medical practitioners about their statements (again, something deliberately suggestive of your “qualifications” to make an assessment being equal or superior to their professional standing); in the “eugenics thread”, you outright claimed expertise.

Now you want to tell us that your statements were mere ‘opinions’? When people raise medical or scientific issues on this board, they are not looking for answers from unqualified quacks - they are looking for the educated opinions of people qualified in those fields. It has already been pointed out to you more than once that your advice on the issue of tilted uterii was alarmist at best (BTW, just how many uterii have you palpated?), and your statements re prostate cancer were downright dangerous.

I don’t have a problem with you discussing your opinions - there are fora here in which everyone is more than welcome to do just that. But if you choose to enter the fora where factual answers are required, please do not present your “opinions” as if they were fact. Don’t present them as “expert opinion” or refer to your “expertise” if you are not, in fact, an expert. And, above all, do not seek to deliberately create the impression that your “opinions” have equal or more validity than those of board members who actually do hold qualifications in these areas.

Yes, you might be able to help me start my car even though you aren’t a mechanic. That does not however qualify you to dispense medical advice on this board, let alone give you the right to maintain that post is more worthy of note than the posts of people who are qualified medical practitioners. I’m sure they don’t appreciate your “coat-tail” posts either. The ones where after they have stated a professional opinion, you pop up to post “yes, I would have said that too Dr Nick”. By posting that way, you yet again imply that you share their professional knowledge and expertise.

I don’t care how educated or uneducated you are, what I care about is that you repeatedly seem to go out of your way to create the impression that you have expertise and qualifications in areas which you do not, and that you repeatedly deflect questions about what qualifications you have to give answers in those areas.

So one more time, for the record. Are you now saying that you are not and never have been a qualified medical practitioner anywhere on this planet? Because if you keep trying to fudge the answer to this question and yet insist on continuing to post in medicine-based threads, I would seriously suggest that the mods edit a disclaimer into any posts you make, lest some poor person actually follow your advice.

BTW My son is studying forensic science and thus found your logic relating the concept and determination of “race” in the eugenics thread highly amusing.
wanker

I wasna going to come in here again, but after reading peace’s posts in the “Can your stomach explode from overeating” GQ thread I had to.

  1. Peace, you are an ASS!!! A priceless ASS. You go out of your way to make trouble. I don’t know why you hit all the medical questions, since apparently you don’t know nothing about medicine despite the fact you think you do. I’m surprised it took someone (me) this long to create this “PEACE, you worthless piece of shit” thread.

  2. No one is making fun of your English. It’s not really your arrogance either. It’s more like an ineptitude. You just have a bullheadedness in trying to argue something despite the fact that you are wrong.

  3. For the record, my original 22lbs testicle crusher comment was a tongue in cheek comment and typed with a straight face if you could have seen it. Come on, don’t any of you guys have a sense of humor?

Why is it that so many Australians seem to have so little tolerance for bullshit and posturing from those who claim a position of authority?

Major,
I for one assumed your answer was exactly what you say: a tongue in cheek response to something you never expected there to be an authoritative answer to (at least after you responded with “Trust me you don’t wanna know”). I probably would have backed off a little faster than you, but this clown could make anyone see red.

Peice’s latest masterpiece of coherent thought, and essay in fully supported logical argument.

Why not? :wink: I remember shortly after I got here going to the cricket and the crowd roundly booing the umpires before the game had even started.

Your handle is Reprise, you sign your posts Wanker. I am confused as it is, do not confuse me more.
Are you sure that you are not carried away? I just reviewed the main page, there are no limitations:
General Questions
Got a question for the Teeming Millions (and possibly Cecil) to consider? Post it here. manhattan, ChronosGreat Debates
For long-running discussions of the great questions of our time. This is also the place for religious debates and (if you feel you must) witnessing.
It says: “post it”. No qualification, no disclaimers.

Q: there are certain rules relating to posting in each of the fora on this message board.
Where are the rules? I never saw any rules, nor the mods ever mentioned anything beyond netiqette, which was violated by you, not me.

Q: you do try to create the impression that you have expertise in these fields
No, I do not. You may have this impression, but only because of my words, not because I try to create it.

**Q: some of your assertions in medical threads have been corrected by people who are qualified in the field **
How do you know that they are qualified? Could I check their qualifications?

Q:I have no medical training whatsoever, but for what it’s worth this is my unprofessional opinion
I have no problem with this phrase whatsoever. I will incorporate it into my signature, so it will appear in all my posts. If you have any suggestions about any other disclaimers, let me know. I will waiw a day or two.

** In both the “prostate thread” and the “tilted uterus” thread, you made statements which implied you were speaking from a position of expertise; you even argued with qualified medical practitioners about their statements (again, something deliberately suggestive of your “qualifications” to make an assessment being equal or superior to their professional standing)**
Perhaps you, like Astroboy’s fiancée HJ, do not question authorities, even perceived ones. I do.
I do not place my “assessment”, superior or inferior, to anything; if you do, it’s up to you.

Q:When people raise medical or scientific issues on this board, they are not looking for answers from unqualified quacks - they are looking for the educated opinions of people qualified in those fields
Speak for yourself. I look for the opinions of those who know. If I want *educated[i/] opinions, I’ll ask educated people, or will go to a library, or to certified sources, etc. In any case, I do not have to follow your criteria.

Q:BTW, just how many uterii have you palpated?
You’d be surprised. But the number is irrelevant: I give my opinion because I know the subject; I would not give my opinion about pregnancy development or anything else I feel uncertain about.

Q:And, above all, do not seek to deliberately create the impression that your “opinions” have equal or more validity than those of board members who actually do hold qualifications in these areas.
Do not confuse yourself with me. I do not value my opinions, you might value them. Actually, I often disagree with my own opinions. But if they are strong (“testicles are solid”), I make it obvious. Regardless of who states the opposite. If somebody told me that he was a chief of Battery Dept. at a major car company and advises that guy to warm the battery on cold mornings, because batteries freeze solid, I’d say that he goofed, they do not freeze. His expertise and qualifications notwithstanding.
Q:… posts of people who are qualified medical practitioners
You keep surprising me, Reprise: you appear smarter than that. How do you know that they are qualified?

Q:stated a professional opinion,
C’mon now! This MB ain’t Her Majesty distict court. They will give their professional opinion under oath, when asked and paid. I know where to find pro opinion. On this MB it is OPINION, period. And the site is called Message Board, not Professional Opinion Board.

Q:By posting that way, you yet again imply that you share their professional knowledge and expertise.
Again, I do not imply anything. Nor do I want to appear professional to you. So, all implications are yours.
Q:So one more time, for the record. Are you now saying that you are not and never have been a qualified medical practitioner anywhere on this planet? Because if you keep trying to fudge the answer to this question and yet insist on continuing to post in medicine-based threads, I would seriously suggest that the mods edit a disclaimer into any posts you make, lest some poor person actually follow your advice.
Go ahead. In this country, despite everything the government and the lawyers do, we are still responsible for our actions. If anyone here follows my advice because they thought it was professional, I professionally advise them to have their heads checked.

If your son is still interested, it was not “my logic”: all over the world police look among less pigmented (“white”) people, if a blond body was found and among strongly pigmented (“black”) people, if dark-skinned body was found. What is so amusing about it?

Major, you overdid me: sometimes, I can’t resist to make a joke and I make it with a straight face. I was not alone to swallow yours with the sinker. You are nine months older than I am; you must have known how often the sense of humor leaves us. Especially when our balls are pulled.

Gaspode, I do not claim anything. Australians, like Britts, worship authorities.

Peace writes: If anyone here follows my advice
because they thought it was professional, I professionally advise them to have
their heads checked.
end quote

this looks like a fine and dandy disclaimer to me. I look forward to seeing it on your posts.

Sure we do peace…that’s why a bushranger (Ned Kelly) is a national icon, why given a choice most of the population would choose a song about a sheep-stealer (Waltzing Matilda) as our national anthem, and our third favourite activity (after drinking and gambling) is cutting down tall poppies.

Looks like we can add “other cultures” to the list of subjects about which you feel compelled to make sweeping, ignorant, and unsupportable statements.

You remain, peace, a wanker.

(will someone please make me a ‘wanker’ smiley - I have a feeling I’m going to have a lot of use for it…)