People who hate children

[starwarsfreek42]

@Kalhoun

Yeah, but that doesn’t stop the child from screaming, so you really haven’t gained anything.

Actually, I had a kid shut the hell up while I was asking his parents loudly what was wrong with him. Maybe he realized what an ass he was being. This was in a Verizon store, not a grocery store, but same principle.

[mswas]

@lindsaybluth

This is a crock of shit. Half of all pregnancies in the US are unintended - that’s in and out of marriage combined. People’s mistakes should not be rewarded. And “supported by all”? Please. We’re not a collectivist society. Get off your high horse. My parents are both physicians and their entrance into medical school wasn’t because they’re altruistic people - incidentally (and incredibly) they are, but they acknowledge they’re in the minority. They are physicians only because they had stellar MCAT’s and GPA’s.

It’s not about the parents, the kid is a real person, not an appendage of the person who made a ‘mistake’ and named it Jeremy.

[mswas]

@Lynn_Bodoni

This bothers me too. And I see parents (or those I assume to be parents) doing it most of all. I see adults out in a group. Baby is in one of those SUV child carriers, you know what I’m talking about, it’s too big to fit in an adult chair. Baby gets his bottle while he’s in the carrier, nobody is holding Baby while he eats. Baby seems to be pretty well used to not having human contact. I am, of course, a breastfeeding Nazi, having nursed my own daughter for over a year. I firmly believe that babies need to be held while they’re nursing, whether it’s from breasts or from a bottle. I think that kids, and babies in particular, should be picked up and cuddled every now and then when they’re awake. I think that they shouldn’t be parked in a baby seat for hours on end, especially when there’s a group of a half dozen adults sitting around. I think that the adults should pick up Baby, feed him, cuddle him, and pass him around to the other adults, and not ignore him during the whole restaurant visit. I put my daughter in a baby seat when she was an infant and toddler, but she didn’t spend the vast majority of her time in it. I held her and loved her and then passed her over to her Daddy, who also held her and loved her. Babies and kids NEED a lot of contact and interaction. Ignoring them isn’t good for them or for other people around them.

But of course I’m pretty judgmental like that.

No one in my family treats their kids like that. The only time the baby stays in the seat alone in the restaurant is when they are asleep. Most car seats fit in a hi-chair if you turn it upside down.

My daughter just stopped breast feeding at one point. There was no effort made to ween her.

[Kalhoun]

@starwarsfreek42

Actually, I had a kid shut the hell up while I was asking his parents loudly what was wrong with him. Maybe he realized what an ass he was being. This was in a Verizon store, not a grocery store, but same principle.

Maybe he was mesmerised by your lack of discipline.

[SmellMyWort]

@starwarsfreek42

Most of you are saying that people who hate children are bad people, so I don’t really feel sorry for you. If a person is visibly making an effort to quiet the child or remove it, good. If they are standing there while Jenny throws a screamy hissy fit in the floor, not good.

I don’t think anyone has said you’re bad, but I kind of feel like anyone who claims to hate children must have something wrong with them upstairs. You might has well curse the sky when it rains or glare at the ocean when it washes away your sandcastle.

Guess what, you are in the vast minority. Sure, maybe some people don’t want or don’t really like kids, but I doubt most would say they hate them. Mix your proclamation of hate with your entirely unrealistic notion that a parent with a screaming kid should run for the grocery store exit and with your claim to have kicked a child (grow the fuck up why don’t you), and it becomes pretty hard to take you seriously.

FYI - no kids of my own but I do enjoy those (of various ages) that belong to neighbors, friends, and family, despite the occasional annoying behavior. And I can’t even remember the last time I was annoyed by a screming kid in the grocery store, but then I’m flying through there so fast with my bargain-hunting-ninja-skills cranked up, so I guess they don’t even register.

[starwarsfreek42]

@Kalhoun

Maybe he was mesmerised by your lack of discipline.

After 10 minutes of standing in line behind him, while his parent chatted inanely about the new Samsung Glyde, maybe I was mesmerised by his lack of discipline.

[msmith537]

@Jettboy

I’ve noticed here on SDMB that a really unbelievable number of people are endlessly opining about how much they hate children. I’m torn between feeling pity or annoyance; usually annoyance wins out. Generally, I comfort myself with the knowledge that the anti-child vitriol spewing comes from a group of people who are in a small, but very obnoxious, minority; but still…sometimes it gets under my skin. These sad fuckers write about causing permanent psychological and even physical harm to children as casually as if they were talking about pulling a garden weed or squishing a cockroach.

I’m sure you’ve seen it; hell, you can’t miss it. Every week at least one or two of these threads show up. Go back and have a look at some of these comments; they’re not hard to find. Just for fun, substitute “Puerto Ricans” or “Jews” in place of “children”. Pretty fucking ugly, no?

The main culprits seem to come from two separate groups, A: the socially retarded, 20-something, wannabe hipster compu-weenies who live on the internet and think being a sarcastic dick on a message board is tantamount to genuine human interaction, and B: angry, bitter, older shut-ins who see children as a constant reminder of the fact that their miserable lives are now just slowly circling the drain waiting for the final flush (I’m looking in your direction Cc).

I’d like to take this opportunity to address all of the childless whiners out there. No, not just people who don’t have kids, but the special group of asswipes who actively hate children. The ones who blurt out obnoxious drivel like, “I made a decision not to have kids, and I shouldn’t have to raise YOURS!” whenever that are faced with any situation that might call for a minor amount of care or compassion towards any human being under the age of 20. The ones who sneer, “I hate the way society kowtows to all of the breeders and their screeching hoards of brats!” The emotionally immature, self-absorbed, narrow-minded, narcissistic, pinched little jackasses who rankle at the idea that their ‘freedom’ should be curtailed in any way to keep parents and children safe and secure. You know who you are.

Here’s the bad news; Children are part of ‘society’. Parents are part of ‘society’. It’d be just peachy if everyone was your own age, if you could drift through life in a perpetual grown-up Disneyland where little ones were not allowed, but unfortunately that’s not how continuation of the species works. The world is not for adults alone. You may not like it, but the world is as much theirs as it is yours…probably even more so.

The world is not for adults, but for bringing them up so that they in turn can bring up another generation. Life is essentially for contributors; we can’t be adults unless someone invites us, as children, to come along and to join in. Those childless-by-choice folk who bitch and moan incessantly about children, who tirelessly support their great ‘decision’ need to realize that they are just a bunch of spectators sitting life out in favor of a less risky, less traumatic, less valuable, less human experience. You don’t want to have kids? Great, you’d probably be a terrible parent anyway. You want to constantly whine and complain about how children as a collective step on your Happy Shoes? Shut the fuck up and grow the fuck up.

You seem pretty bitter for someone who’s life is filled with the joy of children.

[mswas]

@Rilchiam

Okay, I found this by searching for “cult of the child.” (Minus “of the,” natch.) Two quiet, well-behaved children in a restaurant. OP was still uncomfortable, because to him, all children are ticking time bombs, and you have to watch them all through your meal, and when nothing happens, it’s obvious that they were only quiet and well-behaved because their parents were paying attention to them. So the parents still fail.

That OP is disturbing. Hung Mung has a pathological fear of children.

[starwarsfreek42]

@SmellMyWort

I don’t think anyone has said you’re bad, but I kind of feel like anyone who claims to hate children must have something wrong with them upstairs. You might has well curse the sky when it rains or glare at the ocean when it washes away your sandcastle.

Guess what, you are in the vast minority. Sure, maybe some people don’t want or don’t really like kids, but I doubt most would say they hate them. Mix your proclamation of hate with your entirely unrealistic notion that a parent with a screaming kid should run for the grocery store exit and with your claim to have kicked a child (grow the fuck up why don’t you), and it becomes pretty hard to take you seriously.

So, because I have no desire to interact with kids or see them, I must be nuts. That makes sense. You may as well go on and tell me about how I’m disturbed because I, a female, have no maternal instinct. Clearly, I am abnormal. In fact, I have kicked small children on 2 separate occasions, both when I was a minor. They kicked me first. These days, I don’t really think it’s worth getting arrested over.

[Malthus]

@lindsaybluth

This is a crock of shit. Half of all pregnancies in the US are unintended - that’s in and out of marriage combined. People’s mistakes should not be rewarded. And “supported by all”? Please. We’re not a collectivist society. Get off your high horse. My parents are both physicians and their entrance into medical school wasn’t because they’re altruistic people - incidentally (and incredibly) they are, but they acknowledge they’re in the minority. They are physicians only because they had stellar MCAT’s and GPA’s.

A kid may have been a “mistake” but we don’t, as a society, treat him or her any differently based on whether or not he was anxiously awaited or the result of a defective condom.

[Kalhoun]

@starwarsfreek42

After 10 minutes of standing in line behind him, while his parent chatted inanely about the new Samsung Glyde, maybe I was mesmerised by his lack of discipline.

Well aren’t you the impatient, self-important, fidgety little child? Ten minutes? How DID you survive?

[mswas]

The times I have been annoyed at adults in restaurants are more memorable to me than the times I have been annoyed by children. This can’t be because I am a parent and immune to such things, because she was born when I was 29.

There was this one time where this guy was on his SPEAKER PHONE on his cell phone in a small restaurant. I was on the opposite end of the restaurant, ALMOST as far from him as could be in the place. I could hear both ends of the conversation and I interrupted his conversation and started talking about the issue and then said, “really on speaker phone in a restaurant?”

I don’t positively hate people being on cell phones in restaurants. If I did living in New York would be damned near unbearable. It’s ok as long as your conversation is at the same level as it would be if you were talking to a person sharing the meal with you.

I cannot remember ANY situation with a child other than my own of course that was more memorable than that. Whenever my kid is half as obnoxious as that guy I take her outside.

I got several congratulations and thank yous and laughs when I chastised that dude.

[SmellMyWort]

@starwarsfreek42

Ok, I’ll be an example! I hate children. With a fiery, burning passion that consumes my soul. Just today I yelled at a kid riding his bike up and down my driveway. (It makes the dog bark.) They’re not funny, they’re not cute, and they contribute nothing to society. Don’t pay taxes? Get out of my sight. They are messy, loud, stupid, and useless. On two occasions I have kicked small children. Don’t hand me your baby unless you want something horrible to happen to it.

Ok. Flame away!

@starwarsfreek42

So, because I have no desire to interact with kids or see them, I must be nuts. That makes sense. You may as well go on and tell me about how I’m disturbed because I, a female, have no maternal instinct. Clearly, I am abnormal. In fact, I have kicked small children on 2 separate occasions, both when I was a minor. They kicked me first. These days, I don’t really think it’s worth getting arrested over.

So, which is it?

[Malthus]

@starwarsfreek42

So, because I have no desire to interact with kids or see them, I must be nuts. That makes sense. You may as well go on and tell me about how I’m disturbed because I, a female, have no maternal instinct. Clearly, I am abnormal. In fact, I have kicked small children on 2 separate occasions, both when I was a minor. They kicked me first. These days, I don’t really think it’s worth getting arrested over.

Actually, based on this I am kinda getting the feeling you may be a bit off - nothing to do with a lack of maternal instinct.

If you asked most people why they don’t kick small kids, their first answer would not be “because it’s not worth being arrested for”. That sorta implies that if you weren’t likely to be arrested, you’d kick away happily. :eek:

[starwarsfreek42]

@Kalhoun

Well aren’t you the impatient, self-important, fidgety little child? Ten minutes? How DID you survive?

Had I not said something it would have been more like 45. There was some guy up at the front of the line whose phone had been cut off for non-payment, and he was demanding it be cut back on. If the kid had kept on, I’d probably have left, and Verizon would have lost a customer. I’m sure Verizon doesn’t give a damn, but SCREAMY KIDS ARE BAD FOR THE ECONOMY, DAMMIT!

[SmellMyWort]

So, obviously you threw the part in about kicking a child purely for effect, since no one would really give two shits about a kid kicking another kid.

[starwarsfreek42]

@SmellMyWort

So, which is it?

Which is what? You’re going to have to point out a contradiction, because I don’t see one.

[Kalhoun]

@starwarsfreek42

Had I not said something it would have been more like 45. There was some guy up at the front of the line whose phone had been cut off for non-payment, and he was demanding it be cut back on. If the kid had kept on, I’d probably have left, and Verizon would have lost a customer. I’m sure Verizon doesn’t give a damn, but SCREAMY KIDS ARE BAD FOR THE ECONOMY, DAMMIT!

Why are you giving me all the details of your transaction? It’s not important to the conversation and this isn’t your live journal. Kinda like…I dunno…a kid.

[starwarsfreek42]

@Kalhoun

Why are you giving me all the details of your transaction? It’s not important to the conversation and this isn’t your live journal. Kinda like…I dunno…a kid.

Huh? That wasn’t a detail of my transaction at all. Obviously I hadn’t made it to the counter yet. And they don’t sell cell phones to children. You’ve lost me, there.

[Kalhoun]

@starwarsfreek42

Huh? That wasn’t a detail of my transaction at all. Obviously I hadn’t made it to the counter yet. And they don’t sell cell phones to children. You’ve lost me, there.

I’m not surprised.