How am I leaching off of society? Oh that’s right, I’m not.
Uh, maybe you should go look up what “it takes a village” meant.
Honey, I have been disabled since my teens, but I still kept working until the employers no longer wanted to provide the flexibility that would keep me working. And that was before all of the current unemployment issues. Social Security is my money that the feds took from me (and wasted on children over the year most likely). I am quite sure that if I had lied and said that I am turning 65 next month, you wouldn’t have any problem with me applying for that Social Security, but because I resent having had to pay out so much of my income over the years to support other peoples kids, you keep looking for some way to make me out as a leech. Yet you are apparently happy to continue to support all those people who have children they can’t afford, just because they have those children. Why are they not leeching off of society?
OK, explain to me how it is that because I no longer have a job, that must equal me doing nothing for society? And who is it that is paying for that supposed “doing nothing for society”, other than my husband? The conclusions that you jump to are superhuman.
So? Even if that is true, which I rather doubt, so? Do you have some magic number of years a person needs to work?
I have taken advantage of no taxpayer funded resources.
Well, for one thing, I am not yet getting the SSDI and may not ever get it. No matter how well you qualify, the feds are stil not willing to hand your money back and it takes time and effort - I’m supposed to be on the fast track and it’s still taken over a year and a half so far. Two, even tho SS is bankrupt it doesn’t eliminate the fact that I sent money to the feds every other week for decades, based on their promise that they would give it back once I qualified for it, either by advancement of disability or age. And three, I worked for decades and paid into society, and even tho I am not now drawing a paycheck, I am still required to pay into it. Children do not, at all.
No matter how hard you try, you are not going to be able to come up with a way to justify requiring everyone else to pay to raise children we had no say in creating.
Really? You said:
That was directed at me personally, and was not solely a comment about the current state of education that I took personally. You utterly fail to take responsibility for what you say. Does being a weasel ever bother you?
Back atcha. You can act upset, make personal attacks, and be an asshole, but then claim you aren’t until the cows come home, but that doesn’t make it so, no matter how many times you post to this thread.
I believe I have only really addressed YOU in this thread. I don’t like how YOU state that you don’t like kids. Literally all of my close friends are childless. ALL of them. A goodly portion of them are childless because they don’t like kids. Somehow, I maintain friendships with them just fine. Why is that? Maybe because they are not assholes. So, you can jump to some universalized conclusions about me, or you can just apply them to yourself. I don’t like you. That’s it.
They will be. They can’t fucking work when they’re toddlers, so sorry. But they will work, and they will be taking care of your needs. Yes, I hate to tell you, but they will. They’ll be paving your roads and picking up your trash and keeping your power on, and they’ll be your doctors, your acccountants, your salespeople. You will need them. So maybe stop hating on them because they are not working, considering that you yourself aren’t working either. You have a spouse who will support you. They have parents who support them. What’s the difference?
For the same reason why you are dishonest about your own words in this thread: to win the argument. You won’t stop posting, you won’t admit that you’ve been insulting, hyperbolic, and extremist. Why not lie? You have to WIN this thread!
Ah. Once you’ve gotten all the work you can out of someone, kill em off, eh?
(Of course, what you say is assuming that those children will all actually become useful and not felons, welfare leeches or SAHMs)
Actually, she’s a failure at leeching off society. She hasn’t convinced the government she’s disabled & her husband is still supporting her.
She aspiring to leech off society!
I said almost 40 years. Or I’ve said decades. Either one works. I also said I quit working near the end of 2007.
Anyway, the specific amount of time is 37 years and four months. Does it make a difference? No, I didn’t think so. Just more attempt at distraction from the fact you have no leg to stand on.
If you would actually bother to read what I post (instead of - ahem - just trying to argue) you would see that I have been very consistant. The only variations are the wild conclusions others jump to.
As I said, your desire to be butthurt by something I didn’t say is not interesting enough for me to stay awake for.
As I said, you repeating something over and over doesn’t make it true.
They will? You guarantee this? So all those felons, welfare leaches and SAHMs that we have out there not working were never children?
And again, you all don’t need to keep pumping them out at the rate you are in order for us to have people to do those things in the future. We have plenty of workers already, particularly those of the road paving and trash picking type.
Because the parents don’t support them. My whole point, which you just ignore in your rush to nail me to the wall for not liking children. No parent supports their children all by themselves, with no financial help from the government and/or businesses, and far too many don’t support their own children at all. If we didn’t have to pay so much in taxes to support all of these childrens programs, we could live very comfortably on what my husband makes. But no we keep getting told to pay out more every year. And then you dare to say that me living on what my husband makes is the same as children living off of their parents. :rolleyes:
Uh, what? I post here when I have some time, in quick spurts, and you answer right away and then complain that I won’t stop posting? And you think it’s me that is trying to “win”? (Whatever that means) You know what this looks like you are saying don’t you? That you don’t like what I say so I have to shut up and go away? This one is directed at your ability to do your job - if you have that sort of attitude towards lifestyles/beliefs/opinions you don’t like when you are teaching your students, and you are the norm, it is no wonder that so many kids are assholes these days.
And now it’s time for sleep and I don’t know if I’ll have time for you all in the next couple of days. You want the thread to stop? Here is your opportunity, at least as much of it as I am responsible for. Adios.
Then go the fuck to sleep. You insulted me personally. You don’t want to own up to it? Fine. But you said it.
BACK ATCHA.
The vast majority of people (excluding yourself, of course) do work. What is your problem with SAHMs? They are supported by their spouses, just like you are. What a hypocrite you are.
I’m not pumping them out at all, thanks so much. Neither is everyone else. The birth rate is dropping. It’s your generation and the generation older than you that is brimming over with useless (read: non-working) people from the baby boom era. But why let actual facts get in the way of you getting your hate on? You WILL need those kids to take care of you. There will be so many “useless” old people that need goods and services, and fewer young people to meet those needs.
That means your parents didn’t support you all by themselves either. Your husband’s parents got the same help. But now you resent giving back after you took yours. What does that make you? You make it sound like you sprang, fully formed, from your father’s forehead. With the headache you cause, I wouldn’t doubt it. 
Oh, there there, don’t get UPSET, sweetie. I know, all those evil, grubbing children, stealing your… I mean your husband’s money! What exactly are you paying through the nose for? Public schools, which you yourself have used? What? Please be specific and offer cites.
The thread has almost been dead several times, but you come roaring back in to reply to things from pages and pages ago. That’s not letting it go. When your post is in reply to me, and it’s on top, am I supposed to let you get the last word? That is what you want, isn’t it?
You are intellectually dishonest. I feel I have to correct you when you insult and misrepresent me. Also, I find watching you twist and contort fun. But you are trying to win, and you do want the last word. Witness:
oh noes, somebody insluted me on teh internets! How could you possibly care?
Since you lack basic reading comprehension, shall I explain it to you? She claimed her comments about my job were about the state of public education in general, not directed at me. She was lying. I proved it to her by quoting her back to her, but of course, she still insisted that she hadn’t said it because she’s incapable of taking responsibility for her own words. While I don’t care about her insults, I do care about her lying and weaseling out of having made them. I enjoy pointing out her hypocrisies and inconsistencies.
There. That little primer help you? Or are you just trolling again? Sorry Frank, I call 'em like I see 'em.
No, you did not. You said “40 years.”
And please, so you had a paper route or some other dinky little job when you were a kid. So do kids today. So what?
I’m using your “logic” to prove a point, pinhead. People forked over money to support your unemployed ass when you were a child. That’s the system. You’re either incredibly stupid or you’re just looking for an argument. But your argument has no substance in the real world.
Explain how children who don’t work do nothing for society. “Used to” doesn’t count. What have you done for us lately? And if your husband is employed, why are you sponging off the public? Why can’t he take care of his own?
You’re the one with the magic numbers.
Bullshit. Who the fuck do you think is paying for your support? Hint: It’s not your husband…another drain on society.
Maybe you’re not all that disabled. You’ve managed all these years, claiming disability and still working. There are safeguards built in so those who want to abuse the system are filtered out. You know those welfare queens and their feelings of entitlement…
Working for decades does not entitle you to a handout. No one said you are guaranteed to reap any benefit from your tax contributions until you reach the age of 62.
I don’t have to justify it. Society has already stated that 1% of the federal budget is a small price to pay for caring for those who can’t care for themselves. The vast majority of federal welfare isn’t going to those you hate so much. Much of it is going to people like you…the drains on society who CAN work, but don’t.
The beauty of it is that it does not need to be justified - the majority thinks that its the thing to do, so we do it. We live in a democracy.
curlcoat you are free to found a political party on that topics, get elected, and change the system. Somethings tells me that you will not get many votes on this.
Why can’t people who have children take car of their own???
Psst. Dude, they do. They’re just trying to illustrate to curlcoat that she’s a hypocrite.