I can go you one better. At a Denny’s some of us go to during lunch break, One group of people thought nothing of bringing their small children in, with filthy diapers. They didn’t even bother to use the diaper changing “station” in the restroom either, and pretty soon the whole place reeked of shit. How’s that grab ya? A diabetic taking a shot is way way “below the noise level”.
Wow. How many train wrecks can be in the Pit at one time? :eek:
Whatever are these oh so squeemish folks to do when the seniors show up with the oxygen tanks? What about the wheelchairs and the walkers?
Where is it written that chronic illness sufferers must stay at home and not show their faces? Why can’t a little boy have dinner out with his parents? If he had asthma and needed his inhaler right then-should they go to the toilet for that, too? What if he is choking? Should that be screened off so as not to disturb the other diners?
I think that folks are gonna have to get used to seeing some medical supplies in public. Are we that afraid of reminders of our fraility as humans?
Hentor -love that little one and keep his sugar control tight. Managment of DM has come light years in even the last decade. Back in the day, my sisters tested their urine once a day (IMS) and injected once a day. We have truly come a long way, thank goodness.
I can relate somewhat to the squeemishness–I think it’s more the unexpectedness of it all that disturbs people. You don’t expect someone to whip out a needle whilst dining. But I think that good manners will see anyone thru.
As to the “risk” of exposure to some dread disease. It is nil to none. Get a grip.
People say you shouldn’t do that, that you should instead set the lancet for a deeper poke, and not risk damaging the finger by pressing. However, I agree with what you are doing, and by setting my lancet as shallow as possible, moving sites, and working with the pokes, I still have feeling in 8.5/10 fingertips after decades. A friend of mine always set his lancet very deep, and he ended up having the ends of a few of his fingers “slough off”, with horrifying results.
And Ann Landers was right.
Hentor, multiple people in this thread, and the other one, either have diabetes themselves, or have relatives that do, and many of them said they have never injected themselves in a restaurant. Others have said that they have done so, but discreetly.
And that’s the part you seem to be incapable of understanding, because your description is not discreet, at all:
Pricking fingers, drops of blood, wiping with a bit of napkin*, laying the kit on the table, giving the injection at the table, etc. doesn’t sound very discreet to me.
Now, I for one have never seen anyone injecting anything in a restaurant. So either I’m not watching other people, or not many people are doing it, or both.
You are the one going out of your way to make a big deal about it, though.
*Whose napkin, btw, the restaurant’s? Napkins are to protect one’s clothing from spills, or if eating particularly messy foods, to wipe the fingers. They’re not intended for medical waste :eek:
On the other side of the coin, there are others like myself. “We” are not diabetic. “We” have no problem at all with someone testing or taking a pill or shot in front of us. It is a medical situation, and the person’s health is more important than any “yucky factor”. As for slinking off to a filthy restroom like some tweaked out junky, forget it. I’ve seen restrooms that were so nasty I wouldn’t even want to take a leak there. I have to ask, which side really is making the bigger deal out of it? Which side is being more selfish here?
Should we instead make them wait, and risk either have a sugar overdose (whatever it’s called), or a sugar crash / insulin shock?
I think GaWd pretty much summed it up, but what kind of overly sensitive soft ass pussies are you guys? Maybe you should move to Africa for a few years and then come back and see if this nonsense still happens. Shit, you guys would be fucking scared for life if you did that.
And another thing, why are you so goddamned nosy anyway? I swear we’ve become a nation of fucking busybodies and I wish for once, just once, people would mind their own business and quit worrying about what is normal. If there is such a thing, which I’m pretty sure there isn’t, it sure as hell isn’t you. Fuck you.
Good luck to you and your family Hentor.
Thanks milroyj for living up to the standards of milroyj. You do set a baseline, and that is a service in and of itself.
Really? Many have? Which people with diabetes have said that they have never injected themselves in a restaurant? Please name the many of them.
I think your definition of discreet is probably more like what other people might call “hidden.” I am not going to hide. The kit is merely a zippered folding case, about the size of a very small day planner. Why this should be a big deal, I have no idea. As to the rest, you probably wouldn’t even know what we were doing, unless you were staring at us the whole time. I would call this discreet. Of course, we could pull dictionary definitions of discreet, but the point really is that what we are doing will have no impact on you unless you are looking and also have a problem with the smallest of injections. It will have a big impact on my son. Guess who wins in that equation? Hint: my son is not a fucking moron.
Nope. At least not in terms of what we do. Not a big deal at all. About defending the right to do it without being called icky or in poor taste or looked down upon or sent to the restroom? Fucking A I will make a big deal about that.
Wow. Are you a fucking numbnut or what? You want to argue the purpose of a paper napkin now? What a fucking tool you are.
You did sneak a “nebby” in back there.
You might have something there. My grandfather was a Mon Valley steelworker, and the last time he ever drove a car was when he was in severe pain, dying of lung cancer, already working on only one lung.
He drove to the polling places to vote, because he’d be damned if he missed an election and let the other bastard win.
Maybe not, but you certainly are.
And just where did you dream that "right: up? The “right” to do it without being called icky or in poor taste? You have to be fucking kidding! Whatever rights you think you may have, you have no right for others to not think you’re acting in poor taste, or to say so.
What are paper napkins?
Sometimes Pittsburghese just fits so well!
A tip of the cap to him and to you.
My kind of man.
Maybe not, but you certainly are.
And just where did you dream that "right: up? The “right” to do it without being called icky or in poor taste? You have to be fucking kidding! Whatever rights you think you may have, others have the right to believe you’re acting in poor taste, and to say so.
What are paper napkins?
Are you deliberately obtuse, or just as dumb as you seem?
Who is being obtuse now? Whoosh!
I may very well be. What happened, however, to your listing the “many people” with diabetes who say that they have never injected insulin in a restaurant?
You are absolutely right. No such right exists. It is merely a hope that most people will engage in a reasonable balancing between their own concerns and other’s needs. In fact, I started this thread because the idea of others’ being so troubled by this fact of life was foreign to me. I am disappointed that there have been more people out there like yourself, but the well wishes of others have been a pleasant by-product.
I do appreciate them greatly, even if I have opted not to respond to them directly.
You must be joking. Little paper things held in metal containers at fast food restaurants or folded up at your place setting at Eat N Parks or Denny’s or Big Boys or the like? If you’ve not experienced paper napkins, how can you be taken seriously regarding opinions about the way the world works?
That was the stupidest whoosh I’ve seen yet.
Well, I’m glad that you’ve enjoyed some pleasant by-products.
Some things are inappropriate at a dinner table, some are not, and we apparently disagree about where that line is. No harm, no foul.
Says Guin, who couldn’t hold down a job, to save her life. :rolleyes:
Flame off!
I’ve started an Ask the Diabetic in MPSIMS for any who are interested. Come on down and ask me any question you like. I’d appreciate it if things were kept civil, though, since it is MPSIMS.
Flame on!
What, exactly, was the purpose of claiming not to know what paper napkins are? The loudest whoosh on these message boards is the air between your ears, moron.
The napkins must be there for sopping up all that blood. :rolleyes: