Do you get to keep them and take them with you if you go to another job? Do you have to buy consumables like, I don’t know, screws and bolts and stuff? Because the stuff teachers want the school to supply aren’t tools that last decades. They are fucking tissues. Not comparable, so I don’t know why you’re drawing comparisons between your job and your tools and a teacher’s job and their tools.
Wait, what? So you are saying that only those in retail or customer service are able to find jobs in the same area that they live? I could see that if you live in a small town that only has one factory and that is the source of a very high percentage of employment in the area it may be difficult to find another job without moving to another location. But most people live in areas that have diversified economies and multiple companies and competiton exists for keeping employees and therefore a person will have numerous options of where to find employment.
And I want to add that your posts make you sound not only foolish and naive, but like an asshole as well.
Well, here’s all I have to say on the “No Child Shall Be Left Tissue-Less” debate.
I never needed a tissue from the teacher, and none of my classmates did either.
If I were a teacher, I would not provide tissues. Case closed. Period. If that resulted in students wiping their snotty noses on their desks, chairs, blackboard, each other, the globe, or whatever, I wouldn’t give a shit. So be it. Call the janitor and let him clean it up. That’s what he gets paid for.
If snot-nosed kids make you feel queasy, that’s your hang-up, in which case you shouldn’t bitch about the steps you need to take to alleviate your hang-up.
I must concur. I have no idea where Zambo is coming from here. I’ve lived in the same house in the city of Dallas for fifteen years now and gone through four jobs without needing to move. Well, OK, there was a fifth job in there for a very short time, but then I realized it was just too damned far to commute so I quit it in favor of something considerably closer.
Ah, so you’re not going to answer the question I asked you, which undermines the validity of your comparison between your job and mine. I’ll ask again. Do you get to keep your tools? Do you have to supply consumables?
Bullshit.
As the obvious expert on snottiness, of course you know best. 
So, why don’t you just tell us where YOU work, and how flexible your “skillset” is, and maybe we can have a discussion.
I’ve known teachers who, in lending out pencils/pens would in exchange take the requesting student’s shoe. Sort of guarantees you get the thing back.
What type of jobs? Career oriented jobs requiring a college degree? Or G-jobs that anyone can get?
Because where I work and my skillset is not relevent to the discussion. But since your comments started about black rabbit let us look at her post. she is a mid-level IT professional in a mid-sized midwestern city. I would imagine that there is more than one company in a mid-sized midwestern city that need mid-level IT professionals.
You really don’t have anything, do you? (Except maybe a phobia about germs)
No, I NEVER asked a teacher for a tissue. You know what? The school administration, the parents and the students have played you for a sucker.
You let them all get away with it. You should have nipped it in the bud, but you missed your window. Now you and all the other teachers got saddled with providing tissues (for chrisakes) to the students. They all take advantage of you.
If you take a stand, and refuse to provide tissues (for chrisakes) you become a troublemaker. Too bad for you.
I NEVER asked the teacher for a tissue. And, I’m willing to bet that the students who get out of their seats and come forward for a tissue are just seeking attention, and taking advantage of a “freebie”. And wasting class time to boot.
But, it’s your bed, you were part of the making of it, now you have to lie in it.
You’ve got to be shitting me. Are you really as stupid as you appear?
On the off chance you really are that stupid, try visiting a big city sometime. Start counting those large multi-story buildings that sprout up all over the place, not just in downtown. Now start thinking about how many jobs that represents, most of which, I would wager, require college degrees and are considered “good careers”.
In the office building that I work in, there are a large number of accountants, lawyers, doctors, and, in the case of my office, computer programmers. All of which require college degrees, many of which require specialized certification, all of which are considered “good careers”.
And you forgot the most important point. That is all of those lawyers, doctors, and computer programmers could go find employment in some of those other buildings that you mentioned in your first paragraph.
I think your “skillset” and where you work is very relevant to the discussion, since you deemed it worth you while to mouth off about how easy it is to transfer from one job to another while remaining in the same city.
I’m not interested in black rabbit anymore. I’m interested in you, since you decided to participate in the discussion against me.
OK. Here’s all I have to say. Quit your job (if you even have one that is). Put on your resume that you quit your last job because, even though they were paying you $85,000 year, they expected you to occaisionally use your cell phone for business purposes. Let us know how far you get after that.
Oh, for fuck’s sake. Really? Yes, they are definitely seeking attention, 'cause the student’s that need tissues preform a song and dance, then display their blown boogers to the entire class. :rolleyes: Mostly, a kid just walks up to the box, grabs one, blows their nose, then throws it away. Class doesn’t stop, the teacher doesn’t bring the lesson to a screeching halt until nose-blowing has finished… “Hey, look everyone! Isn’t it so awesome I have to BLOW MY NOSE! Pay attention!” I don’t know, maybe I live in boring places, but I have never seen using a tissue in a classroom turned into a grab for attention.
A tissue is as much a freebie as toilet paper in the bathrooms: not a particularly good one. If a kid wants to waste class time, there are roughly a billion and a half ways of doing it that don’t involve getting up from their seat.
Maybe that is where the breakdown in understanding is. I am not in a discussion against you and your situation. I am in a discussion about your comment that people have to relocate to find another job. YOU very well may have a job and a location and a skillset that would require YOU to relocate to find a new job. But you decided that that was the case for black rabbit and nowfor me and it came across sounding like people in general.
I guess that’s a “yes,” then.
Didn’t you know that blowing your nose is all about vaudeville? 
I don’t even make them ask permission to get a tissue. If you need one, you just get it, use it, and discard it. It’s definitely more sanitary than the alternative. Giving out tissues isn’t just compassionate: the CDC recommends it. It also recommends the use of hand sanitizer in schools, something the schools do NOT give out to teahers-- something else to buy out of your own pocket.
According to that CDC link, 1/5 of the US population attends or works in a school. I’d think you’d WANT all of us to be using tissues freely, to cut down on transmission of disease. But Zambini57 would rather we didn’t. I hope a 7th grader sneezes on him without a tissue sometime soon. Then he’ll REALLY be snotty.
What it depends on is whether you’re an employee or an independent contractor (IC).
I’ve started (with my family) two businesses that have grown to reasonable sizes (one around 50 employees & 50 ICs – the other to around 180 employees and 30 ICs). If an employee needed a soldering iron, screwdriver, logic analyzer, or whatever, then we bought it (and, of course, we kept it). When we hired contractors, they were expected to show up with a toolkit (and, of course, they got to leave with it, too).
I can’t conceive of making full-time employees buy their own tools and equipment.
Look, why don’t you just admit that you are some germ-o-phobe, and that most of your problems are your own creation?
Oh, the CDC “recommends” it, so naturally, you HAVE to have it. Of course, you do. Being a teacher in a public school, you are, at heart, a government flack. They put out their “edict”, and you lap it up. Of course, the general public never hears of such things, they are not in your screwed-up loop.
This whole thing is of your own making, and I have zero sympathy for you.