PETA does it again

:smiley: I like the way you think…

haha, this must be done.

PETA? Aren’t they the outfit that condemns using any animal-derived products whatsoever yet one of their top leaders survives thanks to insulin injections? Aren’t they also the outfit that also puts down some of the animals they rescue?

I gleaned those two little bits of information from the P&T: BS! episode about PETA.

How about that? Well, I learned something new from all this after all. Thanks Wile E. And thanks, PETA!

I wonder if PETA ever does anything along the lines of those extremist Christian ‘hell houses,’ only with an animal theme? They could use any leftover body bags as decorations. There could be a little pet cemetery; performers wandering about dressed as the vengeful spirits of unethically treated animals past; weeping, emaciated cows chained in tiny paddocks and guarded by jeering Nazis; bloody tableaux displaying horrible medical experiments on Beanie Babies.

I’ve no objection with what has been mentioned so far.

PETA is right. By buying a pure-bred dog, you’re encouraging breeding of dogs when there indeed are a lot of adoptable dogs in shelters that will be, for the most part, eventually killed. You could have saved one.

PETA is right. When your father is fishing, your father is killing.
And so on : animal suffers during drug testing processes, an animal must be killed for you to wear a fur or a pair of shoes, etc…
I’ve zero issue with them pointing at these facts. Actually, I think it’s a good thing that there are people out there being in our face with such statements. If people are disturbed by reading this stuff, then it means that they’d rather not know or forget the ugly truth behind what they find convenient like buying a pure-bred dog instead of adopting one, or eating a steak rather than noodles. Isn’t fighting ignorance, and particularly wilful ignorance a good thing?
I disagree with essentially everything PETA wants us to do, but I agree with essentially everything PETA wants us to know.

Some years ago, a friend of mine who was heavily into animal rights gave me some stickers that said “Warning! This package contains the decomposing corpse of a small, tortured bird.” I guess the idea was to go to grocery stores and put them on packages of chicken and whatnot. I took a sticker to work and stuck it on the outside of my cubicle instead. Got some strange looks but no one disagreed with the placement.

I agree with PETA’s position on some issues, but their tactics are stupid and counterproductive.

Of course, but is that all they said on the matter? The problem isn’t the facts that underlie their position (in those cases where there are such facts), but the twisted layers of interpretation they lay over the top.

Daddy is killing when he’s fishing (even if he practices catch-and-release, many innocent worms will die), but that doesn’t mean he’s a crazed indiscriminate animal-killer.

This is a worthwhile distinction. Add “disagree with their tactics” and I’ll sign up.

They might have some good points, but their tactics suck. And since when do they care about shelter dogs, anyway? Heck, I thought PETArds were against pets in general…something about humans enslaving animals.

It’s curious how different people can recognize the same problem, and yet arrive at such dissimilar solutions simply because some of them happen to be nuts.

I don’t disagree with their tactics, since I disagree with their goals. So, if their tactic is counter-productive, that’s a plus for me. :slight_smile:
(As long as they don’t assault people or such things, that is)

Yeah, PETA wants all the animals set free. Imagine what that would be like, if all the domesticated animals were set loose in the preservation lands around the country…

PETA doesn’t think much past their own noses.

My feline overlords are very disturbed, that these PETA very bad cat word that I’ve only heard Luna use about the vet might want to deprive them of their staff.

I think you guys are thinking of ALF-Animal Liberation Front. I don’t THINK most PETA members are anti-pet. Although there was a movement (and still might be, AFAIK), to feed your cats and dogs vegan food. Which, in the long run, would probably kill them-at least it would with cats.

Just to set the record straight, here is PETA’s stance on pets. Basically, they wish the institution of keeping pets never existed, and think that pet populations should be reduced by spaying and neutering. They believe that people should adopt pets from shelters, not buy purebreds. They do not advocate getting rid of well cared for pets.

I do resent the notion here, though, that owning a dog that comes from a breeder is somehow evil. (Has a purebred Westie)

No, they don’t. I believe they want companion animals to end as a cultural thing, but they recognize that current animals cannot survive in the wild. It’s been a few years since I read their FAQ, though. I do know that their investigation was instrumental in getting a local, horribly abusive “no-kill” shelter shut down.

As for their issue, I’m convinced that there’s a small core of zealots there surrounded by a huge contingent of attention whores. I’m pretty sure that PETA gets more mention on this message board than every other US nonprofit combined. DNFTAW.

Daniel

So even though other groups are successful rehabilitating them , you agree with PETA that seized fighting dogs should be killed automatically?

I understand how the Humane Society can feel this way sometimes, as they don’t have the money to allow them to help dogs with behavior problems. In the Vick case though, the no-kill groups were offering to take the dogs and had to go to court to prevent others from killing them.

Oh, you’re right. Got my nut-jobs mixed up.

And I have run into a couple of people (in the last two years) who were feeding their cats vegan food. Neither of them believed me when I tried to explain that their cats would go blind. All I can do is hope I planted enough of a seed for them to figure it out later on. I wonder how those poor cats are doing now.

This is the same strawman argument made to perpetuate human slavery in the American South – we can’t possibly let them all loose, there would be chaos, they’d starve!

Not that I agree with PETA’s points generally, but this is a classic historical rationalization by the exploiters.

Sailboat