PETA: People Executing Taken Animals?

Apparently PETA has been stealing animals and killing them.

Being a confirmed omnivore, I have no use for PETA and their holier-than-thou attitude. I object to militant vegans and vegetarians as much as vegans and vegetarians object to people who berate them for not eating meat. Now I hear that PETA is actively going out and stealing people’s pets and murdering them. (The pets, not the people.) ‘Ethical’, me arse! As far as I’m concerned, PETA now stands for People Executing Taken Animals. :mad:

While PETA is (are?) dickheads, there is another side to the story.

Snopes says that animals in that trailer park had been injuring and killing livestock at the farm next door, and that the puppy in question (Maya) was not wearing any collar and was running loose.

I think they kill lots of healthy animals and don’t obey the waiting period, but I guess there’s not yet a smoking gun.

I read a similar story about PITA I mean PETA several years ago. I think this sort of thing has been going on for a long time (ETA taking matters into their own hands I mean. If someone’s pets are being abused, call animal control, don’t kidnap them._))
On the other hand I was at a fair yesterday and there was a booth selling sugar gliders and letting people put them in a little cage and carry them around the hot, dusty fairgrounds. Where is PITA/PETA when they could actually do some good? Out throwing lab animals out in the world to starve, I guess, or kidnapping people’s pets. Good deal.:frowning:

Not all that loose, check out footage from the security camera.

But even if the puppy was running loose, it’s not on them to solve the problem. Calling animal control or even just talking to the owner to ensure that they do a better job of securing the dog sound like better options.

According to the Snopes link, they had been talking to the owners and decided the best thing to do was wait until nobody was home and snatch the dog off the porch.

Did you read the Snopes article?

So dogs weren’t allowed in the trailer park; the park manager asked PETA for help; an adjacent land owner asked PETA for help; the owner of the dog asked PETA for help.

I don’t think it’s fair to say that PETA had no business trying to solve the problem.

The Snopes link doesn’t say they talked to the family about ‘ensuring that they do a better job of securing the dog’. It says they ‘befriended’ them.

And if they ‘befriended’ them, they must have known that the chihuahua belonged to them – which makes their claim that it was a stray rather suspect. According to a former PETA employee:

It sounds to me as if there is a culture of death at PETA, flowing down from the very top.

nitpick, or maybe I’m reading it wrong, but I thought dogs were allowed in the trailer park, just not loose.

What does ‘not all that loose’ mean? That she was on the porch?

According to the county’s commonwealth attorney:

Admittedly, I don’t know how that finding of fact was made. Maybe he just took a statement from the PETA workers, which isn’t all that compelling.

The important thing is, I think we all agree, don’t give a damned dime to PETA.

The dog behaves like she was trained to stay on the porch.

True dat.

By the way, the dog was a present for the guy’s daughter when she immigrated. It’s plausible that the immigration was so recent that they had as yet been unable to obtain a collar, tags, and rabies certification.

I grew up on a dairy farm.
You know what would happen if a dog attacked a cow? The dog would get kicked.

Also, I kind of doubt a chihuahua is really a dog breed that can attack a cow.

Secondly, under agricultural law in most states, the farmer has the right to shoot dogs who are bothering agricultural animals on a farm.

This story has so much wrong with it, I don’t know what to say.

Surely we are not supposed to believe that a chihuahua tore up the udder of a cow. I agree, the story has a lot wrong with it. I wonder if the “reporter” has ever seen a chihuahua. Or a cow.

There should be a spit take box like the spoiler box. That mental image… :D:D:D

Oops, you’re right.

Yup. I do think that in some areas they do decent work (they’ve gotten some really terrible shelters shut down), but overall there’s so much crazy there that they’ll never see my money.

Don’t forget about the 4 month old kittens and the 6 month old puppy. They could have ganged up on the cow.

How about ‘This is some fucked up shit and people need to be arrested and charged for it.’

And just this morning I saw a PETA magazine urging people to “Go Vegan!” I’ve seen other things that tell me that PETA isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be as an organization. Very disappointing.

If it’s OK for PETA to kill animals and throw them away, it’s OK for me to eat animals.

The first part is certainly true. The second part? What specific laws do you think they should be charged with, and why do you think the local prosecutor missed these laws?

Over and over Winograd and others have exagerrated PETA’s criminal culpability. The fact is, they do get invovled in animal control issues, and they do euthanize animals. The vast majority of the time, their involvement is appropriate. Once in awhile, something like this happens.

What I’d be very interested in seeing is how their rate of inappropriate euthanasia compares to the rate of inappropriate euthanasia by animal control offices in the southern United States.

Maybe PETA ‘just happens’ to get all of the sick/injured/unadoptable animals, because they kill four out of five animals they take in.

As for the comparison of euthanasia between PETA and real shelters (data from Virginia):
[ul][li]PETA killed 83.8% of cats and 68.4% of dogs.[/li][li]All VDCAS-registered shelters & rescue groups killed 38.5% of cats and 17.5% of dogs.[/li][li]Lynchburg Humane Society killed 7.1% of cats and 2.9% of dogs.[/ul][/li]I linked to a blog earlier. Here is an article on Huffington Post: WHISTLEBLOWER: PETA Ex-Employee Alleges She Was Encouraged to Steal and Kill Pets, and to Falsify Records

This article has an image of a postcard written by Ingrid Newkirk that reads ‘We do not advocate “right to life” for animals.’ (WARNING: There are also pictures of dead kittens.)