PETA does it again

[LouisB]

@Sailboat

This is the same strawman argument made to perpetuate human slavery in the American South – we can’t possibly let them all loose, there would be chaos, they’d starve!

Not that I agree with PETA’s points generally, but this is a classic historical rationalization by the exploiters.

Sailboat

And we all know that human slavery in the USA was restricted to the south, of course.

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@Lucky_13

My daughter enjoys visiting a website that features online games aimed at elementary school and middle school girls. The other day I found her at the computer, playing a game from that site - I think it was called “Super Chick Sisters.” It was a Super Mario Bros. parody in which a baby chick wearing a Mario-style cap runs around saving the chickens of the world from the evil Col. Sanders and the death camp that is KFC. I’m not kidding, when the chicken finally reaches KFC, the bucket-shaped sign is dripping blood. :eek: At the end of each level, the chicken pulls down a KFC flag and replaces it with a flag for, you guessed it, PETA.

I played this game for the first time last night after finding a link to it on another message board (nice timing since it’s over a year old). It’s actually really cute and sorta fun (for a Flash game, anyway). Here’s the link to it.*

• I do not support any of the crazy bullshit this game is pushing. Paradoxically, it works better for me as an advertisement for KFC, as evidenced by the fact that I had one hell of a craving for some Colonel after playing it!

[Sailboat]

@LouisB

And we all know that human slavery in the USA was restricted to the south, of course.

Huh? Are you mad because I mentioned the South? If other organzed institutional slavery used this argument, please cite it, I’ll be glad to include them in future mentions.

Otherwise, you sound kind of like you’re taking it personally.

Sailboat

[Sailboat]

@Terrifel

But they actually did end up letting all the slaves loose, didn’t they?

I don’t get your point. “They” did so, not because they reconsidered the merits of the “we can’t let them all loose, how will they fend for themselves” argument. They did so because many of them were shot to death and the rest were overrrun by the armies of Grant, Sherman, Thomas, et. al.

The bullshit argument remained bullshit, it was simply overtaken by events. The fact that humanity survived the freeing of the slaves serves to refute the argument that it couldn’t be done.

Yes, I know this is a simplification of an enormously complex issue.

Sailboat

[Biggirl]

A bit off-topic, was I the only one who watched Saving the Michael Vick Dogs on NGC?

Tearjerking, that was.

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@Biggirl

A bit off-topic, was I the only one who watched Saving the Michael Vick Dogs on NGC?

Tearjerking, that was.

I sponsor Little Red, she was a bait dog. Was she in it?

[Terrifel]

@Sailboat

I don’t get your point. “They” did so, not because they reconsidered the merits of the “we can’t let them all loose, how will they fend for themselves” argument. They did so because many of them were shot to death and the rest were overrrun by the armies of Grant, Sherman, Thomas, et. al.

The bullshit argument remained bullshit, it was simply overtaken by events. The fact that humanity survived the freeing of the slaves serves to refute the argument that it couldn’t be done.

Yes, I know this is a simplification of an enormously complex issue.

Sailboat

I’d agree with that.

My point was that, regardless of the cause, the slaves were ultimately all set loose and they did manage to fend for themselves. That was possible, because slaves were actually human beings who were perfectly capable of fending for themselves after being let free. Your pro-slavery “bullshit argument” didn’t want to acknowledge this fact, preferring to regard the slaves as beasts of burden who would run amok and starve if left unsupervised. It was bullshit precisely because slaves weren’t animals.

So the slaveowners weren’t really making the same strawman argument as those who oppose the abolition of dog breeding and factory farming are today. It was entirely reasonable and ethical back then to shuttle a bunch of slaves to Canada and let them experience the joys of freedom. Shuttling a bunch of pedigreed dogs, lab animals or domestic swine into the wilderness and letting them loose is not a remotely comparable situation.

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@Cluricaun

P*TA is totally insane. The published something a while back called “Your Daddy Kills Animals” that contain quotes such as “Since your daddy is teaching you the wrong lessons about right and wrong, you should teach him fishing is killing. Until your daddy learns it’s not fun to kill, keep your doggies and kitties away from him. He’s so hooked on killing defenseless animals, they could be next.”

:eek:

Is that an actual quote from PETA, Cluricaun? Cos that’s fucked up. Fishing’s one of those things I’m pretty meh on - I find it a bit icky but at the same time I’ve always wanted to do it - but telling kids their dad might kill their pets because he goes fishing is seriously fucked up.

Oh, and PETA? You have to have a penis to fish? Sexists.

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@Cluricaun

P*TA is totally insane. The published something a while back called “Your Daddy Kills Animals” that contain quotes such as “Since your daddy is teaching you the wrong lessons about right and wrong, you should teach him fishing is killing. Until your daddy learns it’s not fun to kill, keep your doggies and kitties away from him. He’s so hooked on killing defenseless animals, they could be next.”

:eek:

Is that an actual quote from PETA, Cluricaun? Cos that’s fucked up. Fishing’s one of those things I’m pretty meh on - I find it a bit icky but at the same time I’ve always wanted to do it - but telling kids their dad might kill their pets because he goes fishing is seriously fucked up.

Oh, and PETA? You have to have a penis to fish? Sexists.

[Soz for double post - connection timing out]