Not dwarfs. So they managed to piss off both people who are upset at Snow White’s treatment of dwarfs, and also the dwarf actors who wanted those jobs. I heard from one of those latter on an NPR interview.
They also have irritated people on both sides of the Gaza conflict, as both lead actresses have been very public in their support for opposite sides.
Kind of a dumpster fire of ruffling political feathers. (And apparently, a real fire on the set, as well.)
If it had been a great movie, maybe none of that would matter. Or maybe it would have mattered more, actually. But I’m predicting this one will quietly sidle along into the b-movie bin.
It’s important to remember that this is a children’s movie and its success will be determined by how popular it is across generations of children. (and how many streams, theme parks features, disc sales (if the kid is going to watch it 20 times CDs are cost effective), and re-releases it generates)
Judging from the number of Snow White themed costumes sported by small children in the theaters I’ve been in (I was seeing other movies- for this one, once was enough for me) and the steady crowd around the “take a picture in the dwarves cottage” setup in the Westfield Century City Mall, this is a hit with its core demographic.
The 1937 animated feature is iconic, and rightfully so, but it has some problematic elements (over and above the problematic theme of “if I just wait, my prince will come”). I think this live version threads the needle nicely in terms of dealing with problematic plot elements but keeping the essence that made the animated feature timeless. Is the live version timeless? For the old fogy me, no. For the six year olds (which is how old I was when I saw the re-release in the theater), maybe yes?
Yeah that’s what I haven’t understood in all this thread. All these adults, here and across the internet, saying how they won’t like it because of X or Y, or did like it, or didn’t …
WE. DON’T. MATTER.
I was never going to go to the movies to see this. Might stream it. Won’t buy any Snow White underwear or pjs or toys.
Is it something that the actual target demographic whines to see? Will they want Snow White branded clothing? Toys?
Frozen was a super movie. It appealed to kids and the adults who brought them.
But, i guess we’ll find out how successful this movie is. I think the cartoon version (despite being dated) is extremely popular, and it might be that just maintaining the connection between “snow white” and Disney is enough, regardless of how popular the live action version is.
While some of the adults who pay for all that will be hung up on what the kids might “learn” from it. To which I say “any worse than what they learn from observing reality?” Let kids be kids.
And Disney can’t be blamed that coming up with new ideas is hard work. Which is why they used all those old stories as the basis for their classics in the first place.
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The “antiwoke” crowd seems to not mind if a remake is good or bad as long as you don’t gender/race shift a character. The difference seems to be the smarter ones will argue that the shift is a “poison pill” trick so nobody will dare pan the movie while the less smart believe the movie becomes bad because of the shift.
Does anyone trust IMDB ratings anymore? It’s 48% from critics and 74% from audience on Rotten Tomatoes. Reading some of the audience comments, if you subtract the culture war 1/2 and 1 star reviews, the audience rating would certainly be higher (the critics reviews seem to be more measured, pointing out flaws adults will notice, similar to some of the comments in this thread).
Yes, sure, it’s a kid’s film. It’s also a remake of an Oscar-winning movie that’s widely considered one of the most significant films ever made. It’s fair to look at the re-make with a bit more of an adult eye, even though it’s ultimate success metrics aren’t going to be determined by adults.
I think even if it was the most non woke movie ever kids wouldn’t flock to it. Snow White just isn’t that interesting of a story these days. Look what movies it is competing against.
Snow White is one of the most valuable pieces of intellectual property that Disney owns. It is the theme of one of the most popular rides at Walt Disney World (Seven Dwarfs Mine Train), as well as a character meal that is always fully booked months in advance, as well as providing one of the most popular Disney princesses at theme parks for character meet-and-greets.
And reportedly the movie has been reimagined to give the character of Snow White more agency than the original animated version.
I think you have to also have to take into account movies in streaming services and not just the recent two weeks. In my orbit of children, Snow White has generated zero interest and they aren’t against a good princess movie.
But I believe that Dog Man and Paddington are probably getting more attention (but they have been out for a while now), and the Minecraft movie is something being waited on.
But here are some numbers at least:
And as you say we’ll have to see. Maybe Disney timed it well. They aren’t a huge media empire for nothing.