What CD has the song, “Hold On My Heart”? And, is this Phil Collins solo or Genesis? I noticed it appears on a recent Genesis GH, but no Genesis GH can due justice to this band’s collection of powerful albums! - Jinx
Regrettably this song appears on a Genesis CD; I believe it’s on “We Can’t Dance”.
You’re right. “We Can’t Dance” it was. Had that album. Eww…
According to Allmusic.com, the song also appeared on:
Genesis Live: The Way We Walk, Vol 1. (hmm…I had that one, too)
New Millenium Love Songs
Turn It On Again: The Hits
Phil Collins’ “Hot Night in Paris”
And apparently, interestingly enough, a guy named Eric Marienthal covered it in '89, two years before the “We Can’t Dance” album came out. But the song is credited to Banks, Collins, Rutherford.
My bad. The Marienthal record is date 89-94. It’s some saxophone cover version. (Double ewwww…)
Well, I’ve always assumed that We Can’t Dance was a Phil Collins solo album that got mis-printed…
Right.
Especially since all of the songs on the album are credited to Banks/Collins/Rutherford.
Oh Boy! It doesn’t matter who wrote the We Can’t Dance songs since there has been nothing consistantly good from Genesis since A Trick of the Tail…there have been some moments (some songs off Duke, Wind, and Abacab) but not many .
As I said…misprint.
To be fair, “Fading Lights” is a great song. One of their best. Collins must have been out sick, the day they wrote it.
Do yourselves a favor and check out the band “brand x”, Phil actually was a real musician once (but I’ll bet that Disney $ is HUGE!).
unclviny
Imagine the changes in the course of music history if Phil Collins had actually been chosen as a member of the cast of the Krofft show The Bugaloos, which he did audition for…
Not to mention if Stephen Stills had successfully auditioned to be a Monkee
He was a good drummer in the Gabriel-Genesis days, and had an outstanding performance as singer in their first post-Gabriel release (A trick of the tail). Its been continuously down-slope since then though.
Aw, heck with that. Just listen to any Genesis album from Nursery Cryme onward, or Robert Plant’s first solo album, or P. Gabriel’s third solo album, and tune out everything except the drums. He’s a phenomenal player.
Indeed, when Banks & Rutherford attempted to keep Genesis alive with Ray Wilson, it wasn’t the change in vocals that shocked me, but the absolute lack of any credible drum sound. Phil’s skins were an intrinsic part of Genesis’s music, and that’s what ultimately killed the band, when he left.
I have been meaning to check out Brand X, though.
Yeah, they should have just hired a singer and then gotten Chester Thompson to do the drum work. Hell he was good enough to be the de facto backup drummer on tour, so why not?
Just want to say that Seconds Out is the best live album ever.
I used to feel this way until it dawned on me that the “chorus” of this song is identical to “Ripples”, only slowed down.
Now I can’t listen to it as I cannot stand it when a band rehashes a melody line.
As for the rotten reception of “Calling All Stations”, I don’t agree about the drumming. It was out and out the song selection. Most of these tracks sounded like Banks or Rutherford solo cast offs. IMHO the only salvageable track was “Alien Afternoon”.
Too bad the band cared so much about the CD’s reception in America. It did well in Europe and their tour sold out everywhere there, without Phil. They should have at least tried a second CD with Ray. And I agree, Chester should have been given the drum slot.
Does anyone know if he was offered the job and turned it down?
Phil Collins was a great drummer, no question. But as a song-writer he’s been on a downhill slide for the last 20 years.
And he just can’t help himself coming across as a smug git sometimes. Most of the flack he attracts is down to this than anything to do with his musical ability.
I can’t give you a citation on this, but my drummer friend (who was a professional and played on several records on the Fronteir and Colombia labels) said he once read an article in the 80s or 90s about a guy who developed a computer program to gauge metronomic precision among drummers. Of all the drummers tested, Phil Collins was apparently the most precise drummer rhythmically speaking. (Of course, this does not make him the best or anything like that, as different styles demand playing a little behind or ahead of the beat, but Collins certainly is one of the best drummers in rock.)
I beg to differ. Three Sides Live is equally stunning and gets the nod due to the best 16 consecutive minutes of rock ever recorded on Disc 2. The way they blend “In the Cage,” “Cinema Show” and “Afterglow” seamlessly is a work of genius.