Gulf War 1. Gulf War 2. Presidents names are the same. He’d never know the difference.
In fact it is a piss-poor example.
I) A major portion of the otherwise literate developed world populace does not use email, internet etc.
II) It is not a “common touch” sort of image, certainly not on a mass level (contra as I recall one of your Presidential candidates who marvelled over electronic scanners at markets, now that is [lack of] common touch imagery).
III) Internet geeks and those socialising essentially on internet basis seem to massively over construe the importance of internet (a la c. 99-00) to many tasks.
IV) At v. Sr. levels there are prob. good arguments not to have your man dashing off emails, reasons security and reasons diplomatic.
V) Said personages also have rather better things to do with their time than do their own internet research, etc.
All in all the advert was monumentally stupid, off base, and handed the McC man a twig to use. Of course, if one returns to the faux outrage, certainly the whole idiocy over McC as a cripple, can’t move his little fingers w/o pain blah blah is pure and utter bollocks. Doesn’t change the advert being also idiotic bollocks.
If you Left fools in the US of A want to win the occasional national election, you might wish to figure out how to bloody well talk to and convince the non-Left voter to get them over to you, since you seem to be in a minority of actual voters (leave the registration beside).
Hey, it back to the good old times again! It’s the same retarded Monty we all knew and loved.
Why don’t you answer the fucking question you jerk? Huh?
How is it possible that a person cannot type on a keyboard and yet can do things which require abilities superior to typing on a keyboard? huh?
Why don’t you answer the fucking question you idiot? Huh?
How is it possible that Stephen Hawking can use a fucking computer and Clone McCain cannot? Huh?
Why don’t you answer the fucking question you moron? Huh?
I’m frankly surprised at the amount of emotion people are investing in this rather pissant issue, even to the point of declaring that it alone is enough to make them change their votes. You’ve got seven more weeks of this, Yanks. You’ll certainly see worse. Calm down, or it’s heart attacks all around.
I am the only one who said he lost my vote. And I stand by that, because though I disagreed with some of his policies I was firmly behind his message of change. He was bringing change to the election process and that was important to me. And I am upset that once a minor bump in the polls for McCain caused him to throw it out the window.
Important enough I was overlooking policies I disagreed with, because unlike many in here I realize the President is not an all powerful deity able to make any policy they want the law of the land. I just wanted a different kind of politician to lay the foundation for the future.
I will vote for a third party, my method of dissent, weak for sure. But I cannot vote for McCain as he makes me ill, and I cannot vote for Obama because he is not a change, he is the same as every other major politician.
But not heart attack inducing in any way. I am way more low key about the election than that.
ETA: took out a repeated sentence, coffee machine broke. 
Bollocks right back atcha. This is one of the most simple minded of the tropes concern trolls keep throwing at we “Left fools”. Considering that the first 20 months or so of Obama’s campaign -including the DNC in its entirety- have been about convincing the non-Left why his policies are better for them without speaking badly of conservativism, I think we can safely assume we’ve got that argument out there. Obama is quite rightly emphasizing his opponent’s negatives while still promoting his own core message. And he was right to hold off on that until the McCain campaign provided a mendacious and sleazy counterpoint as a huge (and very unpopular) negative.
RyJae hit the nail right on the head. It was dumb of the Obama campaign to mock McCain as being ‘computer illiterate’. How many older Democrat voters out there fit into that category? The answer would be in the millions.
Stupid, stupid move.
That’s your right, of course, but it strikes me as silly and spineless. If this is your standard, you may as well give up voting entirely because the candidate who adheres to the noble/stupid standard you describe will never get elected and you’re just inviting a lifetime of political disappointment.
Sure, it was a dumb ad. It won’t be Obama’s last. It won’t be America’s last.
See I humbly disagree, I don’t get disappointed. 
No matter who wins or who loses, life goes on.
Monty has suddenly become quite silent and refuses to explain his post.
Monty, you might want to take a look here for another instance where you were wrong (and arrogant).
Democrats think Obama’s porridge is too cold. Republicans think Obama’s porridge is too hot. Perhaps Obama’s porridge is just right.
The fact is that I refuse to give you any more attention for your trolling than this very post. Hopefully the board will go back to pay and you won’t be here any longer.
I am not the first or the only to ask for an explanation. The fact that you will not provide it is well indicative that you realize what you posted was utter BS. And the same applies to the thread I linked to.
Hey guys, you can be able to type on a keyboard and have it not be especially convenient for you. I am willing to buy that McCain would rather not use a keyboard because of his arms/hands. A keyboard is detail work, especially if you want to get a significant amount of work done. He’s probably slow with it. It’s just easier for him to dictate.
The luddite attitude toward the whole thing may just be borne of pride, embarrassment that he can’t do the work himself so he declares himself to have no use for the technology, realizing too late that it may be a liability for some demographics. Either way it is possible for a president to navigate without a computer simply by the addition of a staff member. If George Bush broke his hands in a brush-clearing accident, it’s not like he would stop being president. They’d figure it out.
I think it’s a weak ad for Obama because it is petty. I want to see big profound blows in the negative ads, not cute little fun-poking.
Not to dredge this whole mess up again after it seems to have nicely buried itself, but I have to ask one more time … why is the fact that McCain is a luddite when it comes to the most basic executive tools a good thing? And why shouldn’t it be pointed out as a flaw? It’s a flaw of his.
And the whole – why does he need to be able to do this – doesn’t wash with me. By the same token, he doesn’t need to walk anywhere either, he can just have his aides carry him in a Cleopatran sedan.
- … countdown to FDR argument in 5 … 4 … 3 …*
Not that I’m hanging my vote on this, or that I think the security of the country balances on this … but it’s a perfectly valid point to bring up when pointing out that McCain is waaaaay past his prime.
I didn’t think it was such a weak ad. I think it’s been weaked by the phony outrage … so on that front, good job Rovians … I expected nothing less.
Point of order: It’s a common urban legend, but simply not true.
So 99% isn’t enough for you? It has to be all or nothing?
Obama speaks English, just like every President before him! He’s not at all the candidate for change he said he’d be! :mad:
For the record, I agree. I personally want my President to read news feeds, to carry and use a blackberry, etc. But I don’t think it rises to the level of a requirement for office for lots and lots of people. And I am trying to identify with that perspective, let’s say with my father’s perspective, and see how the ad reads.
So I initially didn’t think that the move is politically smart, one, and the way that the ad is composed reads to me as cheap and petty, two.
However as I think about it I notice that it is crudely designed, apparently intentionally, and I wonder if they are going with a dogwhistle sort of thing where if 95% of the ads that the campaign brings are glossy and beautiful, and this more lowbrow McCain focused ad is cheesy and intentionally amateurish, Obama will not be as associated with the negativity, and the cheesiness will be associated with McCain.
The more I think about most of the moves they make, the more I think that I just ought to trust them.
But the thread was not about whether a president being able to use a computer is a good thing or not which, as many say, is not really an important issue. The thread is about the phony outrage of those who claim the ad insulted poor little McCain and made fun of him and his glorious service to King and Country, etc.
Those who did that are liars who were trying to use a cheap shot. And when it backfired because no one took the bait, then they change the topic to whether using a computer is a good thing.
Or they abandon the thread in a taxi and a huff like someone I won´t name.
If McCain ever claims as such, I’d be willing to buy it too. But he hasn’t once, as far as I know, ever mentioned his injuries being any factor in not using a computer. And he hasn’t struck me as reluctant to play that card.