I was thinking, it seems like the phrase “a whole nother,” is simply the word “another” and someone inserted a word between the “a” and the “nother” part.
Is this so? I don’t think there is a word “nother” at least not one that makes sense. There probably an obscure word “nother.”
Anyway, if this is so, are there other words or phrases like this? And is there a term for this? Or is is just sloppy grammar
The term for what you’re asking for (where a word is inserted in the middle of another word) is “infix”. However, I suspect that what’s going on in “a whole nother” is back-formation: People who use that construction may actually think that “nother” is a word, and that “another” is actually “a nother”, in which case they’re not breaking up a word, they’re just putting a word between two other words.
tmesis, also timesis (noun)
the separation of a word into parts by inserting one or more words in the middle.
Perhaps most famously “abso-bloomin-lutely” in Alan Jay Lerner’s “Wouldn’t it be Loverly” from My Fair Lady.
There is no word “nother” that I know of. Another is made of an and other.
I don’t know what you mean by “. . . the phrase should be. . .”
It’s more common to hear “a whole nother” than to hear “a whole other,” I think. It may be true in your dialect that “a whole other” is more common, but that’s not true in general. I don’t know of what basis you can say that one is more correct than the other.
No, it’s definitely more common to hear “a whole 'nother” in my part of the country. What I am suggesting is that “a whole other” is actually a phrase which is correct English. In other words, “a whole 'nother” is simply a mispronunciation (i.e. it is slang).
The only other construction like this that I hear commonly is a play on the word “behave.” Like, my mom will ask my kids whether they are “being have.” It’s asked as a pure joke, not because Grandma doesn’t know grammar.
You’re new around here, right? Very shortly, someone will call you a Nazi, for daring to say that there’s such a thing as “correct English.” :rolleyes:
My Modern English Grammar teacher in college asked one day when we were talking about affixes if anyone could think of an example in English that used an infix. I did pipe up with a perfectly serviceable example, but I still regret not taking the opportunity to say “absofuckinglutely.”
Mainly because I know that’s the one she was secretly hoping someone would come up with.
So I guess that person was you? I think most people speak slang even though they know out there somewhere exists a correct way. I was just answering the question.
I remember visiting with a college classmate just after he’d finished Marine boot camp, and his most amazing story was how many obscene verbs, nouns, adjectives, and adverbs a drill instructor could insert into a word. The least offensive? “Muske-fucking-teer.”