Saw it tonight. Gawds, that was fantastic. My favorite movie in a long time.
A couple things: Jack wasn’t the one who had the wine go through him, that was Captain Barbossa. And then Orli - sorry, Will - was holding a bloody knife in one hand, and had a cut down his palm in a line, as he dropped the coins into the treasure chest.
I don’t know if everyone gets the same previews, but before the film even started there was a Haunted Mansion preview.
Although I knew they were doing a Haunted Mansion movie, I had heard NOTHING about it - until this preview.
Now I’m psyched for it. I’ll put this in a spoiler box just in case the trailer wasn’t included everywhere (I saw Pirates at Disney’s flagship Los Angeles theatre, The Crest):
It’s an Eddie Murphy comedy!!!
Can’t wait!
Pirates was great. My wife noticed several more ride references than I did, but probably everyone has pointed them out already. I think they did miss a few that I was dissappointed they didn’t put in:
[spoiler]First of all, I was very dissappointed that they never sang the entire Pirate’s song. Only bits here and there, and Jack Sparrow was very funny singing the “bad eggs” line a few times, but they could have at least played the original in it’s entirety during the credits.
It was great they could both reference a scene from the ride and make fun of it - I’m referring to the dog-holding-the-keys-in-the-brig-scene, and Jack Sparrow then tells them the dog will never move (of course not, it’s just an animatronic dog!) but they neglected to do the same thing for the Pirates-chasing-the-women scene during the pirates plundering the town scene. In the ride, several years ago the ride was “politically corrected” and the women the pirates were continuously chasing in a loop were given FOOD to hold on to, implying that the pirates were chasing the food instead of the women. They should have had one of the women they were chasing holding on to some food. That would have been funny! They also did not have the scene from the ride in that same section where the pirates were dunking and then raising the mayor (?) from the well.
And they never did explain why Jack Sparrow was so loopy - the one explanation they did give was later shown to be false, and they never offered another.[/spoiler]
Sparrow didn’t want the Pirates to take over the British ship. He wanted them to take the boats and was suprised when they ‘walked’ to the ship. I think he ment to get rid of most of the pirates and then lift the curse so the pirates would lose. But when they walked underthe water he needed to improvise a bit.
I really liked that the Commodore was not made to be a villian or a coward like Cal in Titanic.
Now I did have a problem with the film and that is
The very end.
The film opens with Elizabeth singing ‘A PIRATES life for me’ so at the end she should have been faced with the choice of marrying the Commabore or marrying Orland Bloom (who could have just bought his own blacksmith shop with some of that pirate treasure) BUT SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN OFF WITH JACK SPARROW! She loves pirates! She had a great time with Jack! Jack had another woman on his crew! She wouldn’t have necessarily married him but she really should have run off with him.
Jack Sparrow voice But it never would’ve worked out between them.
And anyone else slightly disappointed that Orlando and Elizabeth didn’t follow jack over the wall and join his pirate crew? THAT would’ve been a great ending!
I saw it Wednesday and again Friday, and I’m still giggling my a$$ off. The people at work must have thought I was crazy, when, during a slow period, I began singing Yo Ho, and muttering “Mr Cotton’s…parrot. Same question.”
Chuckling as I type it. Gotta find a quote collection for my AMs.
Did anyone else notice that the knife with the Aztec gold had a stone blade? Very cool, I thought. I’ve met some guys who could have made that blade. But I forgot to look for it in the credits.
However, there was one historical inaccuracy that initially bothered me:
The pirates attacked Port Royale, a garrisoned naval headquarters town with a fort and a ship of the line and a frigate in port. Pirates, being in it for the loot and not to die, don’t attack heavily fortified towns and warships, but rather prey on the weak and inadequately defended.
However, once I realized that they were zombie pirates everything fell into place and I had no more historical problems.
Just to continue the Hornblower highjack, they showed a “Making of …” video the first time the series came around, which included a major misunderstanding by one of the actors.
Hornblower’s vessel was tiny; IIRC, it wouldn’t even make it to a sixth-rate. But in the interviews, one of the cast was all excited because this was “the first ship of the line” built in many years. That boggled my mind.
From what I remember about the end of the movie (and I think it’s accurate, but I’ll be seeing the movie again tonight, so I’ll be able to check):
[spoiler]1) Jack Sparrow steals a coin directly from the chest, becoming cursed. He didn’t take Will’s coin, so now they each have one.
At the end of the fight with Captin Barbosa, Jack cuts his palm and closes his fist over the coin. This smears the coin with his blood, and he flips it to Will.
Will catches the coin, and drops that coin and his coin into the chest. Both coins are bloodied, and you can see a slash across his palm (it’s on the same hand he’s dropping the coins with, and I don’t think it’s obvious unless you look for it).
All the coins have been returned, the blood debt has been paid, so everyone is now uncursed. Captain Barbosa, now mortal, is shot by Jack.
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Hate to nitpick, jmizzou, but I’m positive thatBarbossa is shot before Will drops the coins. Jack shoots Barbossa and Barbossa says something to the effect of “You’ve had that one shot for ten years, and you’ve wasted it.” Will then says “He didn’t waste it,” and you see him then drop the coins, You can see a slash on his hand. After Will drops the coins, Barbossa opens his shirt, and you see the blood blossom from Barbossa’s wound. I’m not entirely sure when Jack tosses the coin to Will, but you sound solid on what you’ve said for that.
Query to the general public: The slash we see on Will’s hand when he drops the coins seemed, to me, to already be healed and scarred…in fact, I seem to recall seeing a small wound from the bullet that hit Barbossa in Will’s side (a light grazing, enough to draw blood, near his right hip.) Was it merely a trick of the light? I assumed this was the wound from which he got his blood to smear on the coin, and the wound on his hand was irrelevant, though I can’t be sure why he would have that wound then. Am I terrifically wrong?
jmizzou, I apologize–I read your post assuming you were concrete on your series. I see now that you are double checking–sorry if I seemed snotty in my reply. I finally know something, so I jumped on it, and in doing so missed your concession of possible incorrectness. Forgive me, and feel free to let me know if I’m wrong! It would show me good, it would.
I completely agree, GMRyujin. After all, what are Will and Elizabeth going to do back in Port Royale, anyways? Their reputations are pretty well ruined. And if they went off with the Black Pearl, there’d be fun and adventures and threesomes with Jack.
Well, teleute, I started plotting the sequel, and I figure that…
The commodore will realize he’s let TWO pirate off and crack down on their wedding day. Will will be jailed and, naturally, Elizabeth will be nearly forced to marry the Commodore. Jack somehow gets word of this and comes back, arriving just in time for some antics and hijinks, and they all run away, pursued by the Royal Navy.
Saw it with Billdo and others last night… also loved it, especially the self-mocking tone. Another of our fellow moviegoers dubbed it “the next Princess Bride.”
Just got back from seeing it! We thought it was great, and it makes me want to rent all the Johnny Depp movies I’ve missed. He really carried the show.
My favorite line:
[spoiler]Elizabeth: Do you mean you spent three days just lying on the beach drinking rum?
I had heard Depp mention Keith Richards as an influence…I really expected him to be wearing Keith’s signature “skull ring”. That would not only have been in character, but very cool as well!
I checked this on my second viewing–there’s a fair amount of slack chain between his wrists–what Sparrow does is bring his wrists together to the slack folds in on itself, and he flips that slack over the rope, so the slack is on one side and his wrists on the other. He then grabs the slack from under the rope so that it encircles the rope, slides down, then releases the slack so that he is free of the rope. Pretty easy and if you know what you’re doing (which of course Sparrow does) it can be done in an instant.
Good film, far better than anything based off an amusement park ride has any right to be. One question though: why would anyone want to stop the Pearl’s crew from lifting the curse? All lifting it does is make it possible to kill them, since they’d no longer be undead. Seems like the good guys should be helping them out.