QFT.
Oh look, a yappy bitch. How appropriate for a thread like this.
Regards,
Shodan
Lighten up, Francis.
Yes, this morning I realized this is absolutely the wrong place to post although it did net me a helpful PM for which I’m grateful. I may or may not re-post in IMHO, but if anyone else has helpful advice PM works, too. Thanks.
“a successful attack resulting in the dog fastening his teeth strongly in the bull’s snout”
" During bull-baiting the dog would attempt to flatten itself to the ground, creeping as close to the bull as possible, then darting out and attempting to bite the bull in the nose or head area."
Ask the Red Baron.
So, your opinion on several breeds and all mixes that look like they have some bull breed in them is based on your one dog? Your one dog that apparently has not been taught an “out”? And we are supposed to believe that somehow, your “pitt” is the be all and end all of tugging? :rolleyes:
Again with the sweeping statements. These days, there are two major markets that Rotts are bred for - the show ring and guard type work. Neither of those include hunting or killing. I can’t even think of a time in the history of the breed when they would have been used for hunting.
As for “pitts”, again you are talking about several breeds and a pile of mixes. I imagine some of them were bred for hunting, but other than the ones bred by psychos, none are bred for killing.
So? When I see any random dog on the street, I have no way of knowing what that dog is like. Same with any random middle aged WASP male, which happens to be the “breed” of human I have had the most trouble with in my lifetime, but I don’t go around ass-uming that he is going to bite me.
neuter all pit bull type dogs. hold all owners accountable for all dog bites as though they were the attacker themselves. “You own it, you own the result”
obvious. kill the pit bull. What is your excuse for having a dog that attacks other dogs? Next will be a kid.
you ignore the real fact that pit bulls kill people far more often than any other breed. Owners should be accountable for everything their animals do. If your pit bull were to kill my grandchild, I would not expect anything less than you going to jail for murder. You would be safer there.
Crucible you ignore all the facts the have been laid out here for you and continue to believe the garbage that PETA and HSUS and the media spoon feed you. You and your macho posturing are just showing how immune you are to actually learning something.
The facts are very clear. People just haven’t fully accepted that there is a terrible human cost to having dogs living with us, especially those who sometimes kill us.
Dog apologists are fond of saying that if a dog misbehaves, it is the owner’s or trainer’s fault. Yes, that is true, to a point, and when a dog misbehaves, the owner should bear the full responsibility as if he or she had committed the bad behavior themselves.
And, even when a dog is fully domesticated, gentle, non-aggressive and well used to being around people and children, sometimes they just suddenly snap and revert to some primitive instinct. It happened to me when I was around 10. A neighbor farmer had a fine shepherd mix female dog that had the run of his farm, three kids, and never had even a nip from her. One day, my stepfather and I were standing about 8 feet across from the farmer and his son, talking some sort of neighborhood news or trying to work out the loan of some equipment…the son and I were quiet, listening to the adult’s talk, when, with no provocation or warning, the bitch leaped up, lunged at me and bit my upper thigh, just missing my genitals. Broke the skin, needed a few weeks to stop hurting. They kept her in a stall for a few days to watch for any signs of rabies, but she was fine, and, so far as we know, never attacked anyone ever again.
So, you know, been there, done that. We owned a dozen hounds at the time, hunted fox and raccoon, rabbits, squirrels, etc. I’m not a crazy ban all guns liberal. None of those dogs we owned ever even nipped a human, and if they chased a chicken, they were smacked first time, then over the hill with the .22 the second.
No one I knew, 60 years ago, as a kid, ever heard of ‘pit bulls’. Probably thought of them as a useless bulldog or something. We did have terriers and other sorts of breeds, but never had a dog who wasn’t already sick to death snap at them.
The fact is, ‘pit bulls’ have mushroomed into a major problem for the pet-loving industry. They proliferate and fill the shelters. They are often poorly domesticated and every time one harms a human, the reputation of the ‘breed’ is diminished.
The fact is, again, that we would be better off eliminating that strain of dog before it becomes impossible for anyone to legally own a pooch. That day will come if dogs keep attacking humans and livestock around the world.
^^^Nobody’s paying attention to me! waa
And stay gone.
Seriously. Tho I am surprised it took him so long to demand attention again by posting something too stupid for a 8 year old to write.
I thought so, too, until I observed you ignoring the actual facts for post after post, month after month… it’s amazing, really.
This is ridiculously hyperbolic. There is some cost, yes. Just as there is with just about everything, as has been pointed out to you repeatedly, at great length. You happen to be personally emotionally captivated by the (very minor, in the big picture) possible cost of having dogs. You seem unable to get past your gut reactions and allow them to completely control your perceptions and your grasp of facts. But that’s just you, it’s not a universal experience.
Agreed.
The fact that it seemed to you that the dog acted due to some inexplicable “snap” is just what it seemed to you, and that’s valid, as far as it goes. But the actual fact is that the dog acted for a reason, and, barring brain damage or illness having a strange effect on her brain, it is a near certainty that she was giving some kind of indicators about her state and the fact that she was considering biting, you and everyone else just didn’t see it. That is a HUGE HUGE HUGE mistake that you and other anti-dog people make: believing and asserting that because you failed to see and perceive any communication from the dog letting you know that you were in danger, it means that no such communication existed. And that is almost always false. But yeah, you’ve been told this dozens of times and continue to ignore it…
I actually kind of feel for you, because clearly this issue preoccupies you and I believe that you are sincere and that must suck for you. I’m sorry you have to deal with this and I hope for you that you find a way to feel less anxious in the future.
I have 2 pits. They are both extremely spoiled babies, great around kids and are literally afraid of my cat Jax. Jax rules the roost at least he struts around like he does. Now Zeus, he has literally cried and shed tears before, he’s a very sensitive dog. Hercules has never even barked his whole life and is the laziest dog I’ve ever had. Most vicious dog I’ve ever had was a Great Dane, we had to have him put down he was so mean.
And you are also missing out…having finally had my own little bully girl, (sadly now deceased… I am still in pretty deep mourning, actually, it’s only been a few months and she was only 2 ½ years old… a really brutal loss) I have fallen hard… I have had cockers, Golden Retrievers, my Rottweiler/Border Collie and Great Danes. And my pit just captured my heart in a way beyond any of the others…and I adored all of them.
She is the only dog I have ever known in my life to be absolutely purely sweet. Every other dog I’ve known had the ability to be a little crabby or cranky, fearful, whatever. They were all sweet good dogs, but they all had moments when they could be shitty for one reason or another. Except her. No matter what happened, even when she was recovering from terrible seizures and was confused and exhausted, she was 100% sweet with every human and every animal she encountered, all the time, without fail. Utterly delicious and thoroughly lovable, the only thing that really mattered to her was being with me and her brother, playing and snuggling. She was wall-to-wall love.
And I’ve been told by other pit owners that much of her behavior and personality that I found so winning are things that are very much features of pit bulls. (She was a true Staffordshire, but I include many of the “bullies”) Which is what I’ve observed in the past and what drew me to wanting one.
And as far as I’m concerned, pit puppies are the pinnacle of adorable. Absolutely nothing cuter.
That is very unusual… Danes are usually big ol’ goofballs. I love 'em, but their lives are just too short…
You’re kind of a retard, aren’t you? Are you the product of generations of selective inbreeding, or is it just you?