Pit thread for Martin_Hyde {He has been BANNED}

Why on earth would you expect anyone to believe you after you admit to lying? And if you don’t expect anyone to believe you, why are you bothering with the explanations?

I can answer - because you care. You keep lying, saying you don’t care, but only if you care would you spend so much time trying to explain your lies.

Like I said–I don’t care if people believe me, I don’t have expectations for this community.

And I’ve already explained why I keep responding, do you think you’ll get a different answer if you keep saying the same thing repeatedly?

Do you think you’ll get a better answer if you keep making up different, contradictory lies to bolster your own credibility?

On a message board.

Which you (allegedly) hold in contempt?

Pathetic. We’re so contemptible you want us to admire you.

This is bullshit, and you know it. If posters know you lie about things, and they prove you are lying about why you lie about them, then every post you make now becomes suspect. No one has any reason to respond to any of them.

As pointed out several fucking times: if you want to keep private information private, you would simply not volunteer that information at all. You don’t need to lie more than just changing minor details. And usually you can just leave out information. I know: I also do it to avoid doxxing.

You are trying to justify stolen valor. You are trying to justify lying about your personal experience. You are trying to justify lying to win arguments.

Someone who lies about their rank in the military clearly doesn’t deserve that uniform. And someone who lies to win arguments has no value to a fact-based board.

I just feel the need to point out that this is still a completely wild thing to admit. When people want to keep their private information private, they simply omit details or are intentionally vague in an open and honest way. I promise you that if you said you went to a military academy after high school and served in the armed forces and retired as a senior (but not flag level) officer that would be perfectly fine. Nobody is asking for specific dates and ranks and locations, and if they did it would be perfectly reasonable to say no, you’re not interested or comfortable giving out that sort of information. It’s very strange and perhaps telling that you feel this is harder to do than giving out specific but incorrect details.

This supposed “technique” makes no sense because no potential foe is going to collect these snippets to figure out who you are in real life only to shout “Alas! Outfoxed by a clever poster, carefully altering his anecdotes to make himself an unknowable cipher!” They’re going to say “Oh, this guy is full of shit, wait until I tell everyone” which is exactly what happened here. And your response amounts to “Of course I’m full of shit, you’re all idiots to believe anything I’ve said, except for the honest parts, and I definitely won’t be pointing out which parts are honest and which parts are not.”

I have not done any of those things.

You claimed a rank in the military you do not hold. That’s stolen valor.

And you have admitted you claimed experience you do not personally have. You used that experience to argue that you were correct.

You’re lying about what you’ve admitted at this point. Again, people can scroll up and read what you say. You are clearly a chronic liar, which puts all of your posting here at risk–both from posters not listening and because lying like that makes you a troll like Wally from way back when. (That’s why you feel the need to defend yourself, most likely.)

You lie when you don’t have to–when you could just not say anything. And then you lie to cover up for said lies.

I don’t disagree–but I also think that requires a different sort of discipline, one that I guess I don’t have. What I found after some early misadventures on older message boards is it was very easy to, over minor snippets of detail here and there, to leak out a lot more about myself than I wanted. By the time I discovered this forum I had learned better, and it became my practice to have a very specific “technique”, maybe it is overly complex to you, but for me it has allowed me to post on multiple forums of this kind for many years without inadvertently sharing anything that could be used to identify myself–something that I was not able to do prior to developing the technique.

And yet I’ve seen this very thing done. I’ve actually done it myself as well, I’ve been involved in some very adversarial things on other forums where I have obtained personal information on other people to use defensively if I felt the need, or to provide to people who were being targeted for attack themselves to use as a way to counter.

Thing is, for all the time Martin_Hyde has spent trying to explain away his past inconsistencies and justify his anti-doxxing crusade, he could have, with a fraction of the effort, gone to his closet and taken a picture like this. It wouldn’t necessarily prove anything, but honestly, if he’s even got a service coat with an eagle on it in his closet right now it would go such a long way towards making all of us, people he supposedly holds in contempt, look like morons.

Obviously you’re under no obligation to actually do this. You owe us nothing, you’re just a random internet poster. But you also don’t owe use the dozens and dozens of posts you’ve made in your own defense, and yet… you made them anyway. And a picture like this has a 0% chance of resulting in you being doxxed. There’s no personally identifiable information in this post, other than I have a service coat in my closet that backs up a claim I’ve made about my military service.

I guess you’ve never watched CSI. “They” would be able to get his fingerprints off that picture of his index finger.

Jesus fucking christ.

Yep. Admitting something else that would be a bannable offense literally everywhere, and possibly even illegal. It literally seems like @Martin_Hyde has no morals.

Too bad Martin_Jekyll doesn’t post here.

He’s not admitting it. It’s just obfuscation to throw off the real doxxers.

I’ve made a grave mistake!

Enhance.

Better delete that picture before someone defensively downloads it and turns it over to his NSA friends.

I’ve already done a handwriting analysis on that photo and have used it to determine his social security number and genealogical history.

Hey, I have a great idea, one that will instantly restore your credibility and put all the knuckle-draggers on this forum to shame. Are you ready? Here we go:

Show us evidence of you explaining this amazing technique to anyone else online, ever, at any point on any forum over the many years of your online history. Surely if you’ve employed this technique for this long you’ve at least mentioned it before, right? I mean, why not be honest about the fact you change details about your past to protect your privacy? You seem to think this is a completely reasonable thing to do so it would be bizarre if this is the first time you’ve ever mentioned it to anyone.

This may be a big ask, but surely it’s worth it to get these guys off your back, and it couldn’t be that difficult. It could even be a screenshot with your name removed in case you use a different name on a different forum and don’t want people connecting between you two. Or if you’re willing, you could just name the forum and your username and I’m sure folks here would be more than happy to volunteer their time to dig up the example for you, from the Internet Archive if need be.

Or he could just leave the board and enter the pantheon of heroic conservative posters driven out by Lilliputian socialists.

Well fuck. If you guys could maybe slide some money into my kids’ 529s while you’re stealing my identity I’d appreciate it.

He doesn’t even need to go that far. He claimed above that he’s been called out before on this board, so surely he explained it then.

That said, context will help us determine if it was just a convenient excuse. So he might be too worried to do that.

I noticed he was typing before my post saying he lies unnecessarily when he could just say nothing. I do wish to point out to @Martin_Hyde that I didn’t mean shutting up now would work out well. It clearly didn’t.