So you’re playing devil’s advocate for HBDC to break the monotony?
Hey, it’s good to climb into someone else’s skin from time to time and try to get a little perspective. Sort of a Black Like Me thing.
“Onerous”. :rolleyes: Sure, that’s the real burden we should all be concerned about here.
If you can’t be arsed to try to figure out and implement some way to usefully contribute to societal movements against systemic racism, okay fine, nobody’s going to make you. But enough with the plaintive fluttering about “well but nobody is explaining to me exactly what to do” or “well but it’s a lot of work to sort through all the possible options” or “well but nobody’s providing a metric to determine whether any of these options meet my exacting standards for political effectiveness”.
That sort of faux-naive inertia is generally just an excuse for passive limpwimps to flounce out of a discussion exclaiming “Well I WOULD have wanted to help out with fighting racism, out of the GOODNESS of my HEART, if only I’d been SHOWN a really EFFECTIVE way to do so and if you all hadn’t been so MEAN to me”. Yeah, I’m sure you were very serious indeed about really wanting to do that.
Translation: “Instead of donating money to the ACLU or doing anything else that might possibly be of any practical assistance, I’ll just sit back and think Weeeeeee, this social justice movement is inadequate by my high standards for participation so I’m off the hook as far as fighting racism goes!”
Injustice is sad, isn’t it? But there’s no evading the fact that you are indeed a beneficiary, even if an unwilling beneficiary, of generations of racial oppression and discrimination. Nobody is saying you are responsible for causing that injustice. But you, along with all the rest of us, are responsible for fixing it.
Well, if that’s the only way you can think of to help make society more equitable, or if that’s the way you decide is right for you, then I totally support you in making that sacrifice. Of course, nobody is saying that that’s what you have to do, but I would certainly admire you if you chose to do it.
False. You may not be using it deliberately—we all hope and believe that we’re not using it deliberately—but the thing about racial privilege is that it continues to benefit you even when you’re not trying to benefit from it.
Oh, I’m sorry, that must be very trying. Hey, I have an idea: maybe instead of the comparatively drastic step of immediately donating all your possessions and advantages to a black family, your social-justice sacrifice could instead be resolutely accepting and overcoming your deep discouragement at having to be regarded as a beneficiary of societal white privilege even though you didn’t choose to benefit from it and aren’t trying to benefit from it.
That sacrifice would be admirable too, in its own degree.
This Bud’s for you, ACLU!
‘‘Tis not black people fucking up the country right now.
You’d think current events would start causing people to seriously reconsider longstanding assumptions about culture, race, and which demographic groups we really should be dissecting and critiquing.
It sure as hell not mine.
How did I just KNOW some wise guy would come up with this? 
Well played 
Right now I would feel more threatened by, and more hostile toward whites - the far/extreme/alt right - the swastika guys and the guys with the hoods. And I’m white.
So sad. But given me (partial) Irish heritage I’m also an ancestral victim who has been able to set aside centuries of abuse at the hands of those pesky English, and considerable ill-will right here in the good old USofA into the 20th century. I would bring up the Jewish genes, but that might just derail the thread. 
Long story, but I actually did offer my roof but it was politely declined. Was even in the process of kicking a White kid out (another stray) so we had the room.
So trying. I’m just misunderstood.
I’m getting tired. It’s been a long day and I’m getting ready to channel Fritz the Cat out of spite now. I don’t see that as being very constructive. I’ll consider the wisdom in this thread, including the implicit pitfalls of white dudes posting in racism threads, and reexamine my place in the larger puzzle. But still, watch it with the broad brush. And by ‘broad’ I mean ‘wide’ as opposed to ‘derogatory word for woman’. Which doesn’t mean I think you’re broad, I just…yeah, Ima go now.
Do you see how see how your ability to move past abuse that you didn’t suffer and that has no effect on current society might not be relevant?
I am confused also, because I do not understand your hu-mon concept of “racism”. Can you hu-mons explain it to me, a very confused visitor from another planet? Because I would not want to accidentally offend a hu-mon by acting “racist”, a concept I have no experience of. So I would be very grateful if you would kindly educate me, since I just arrived on your planet five minutes ago, and my feelings would be very hurt if I accidentally gave offense.
Oh, I should probably warn you that my species also does not understand your strange Earth hu-mon concepts of “love”, “humor”, “itching”, and “contractions”.
Not according to the vast majority of the black people I’ve spoken to. And I speak to close to a dozen a day.
There, now we’ve got dueling anecdotes; mine cancels yours.
P.S. I endorse this pitting. The degree of institutional racism I see around me in the US is astounding, and depressing.
I’m so confused. Why are racists so fixated on the bad blacks, when it is obvious to me that bad whites are the ones who are fucking this country up right now.
Get your own fucking house in order before you start talking about mine.
I know I’m not a racist because I never tried to come up with a pat ending to a sentence that begins “I know I’m not a racist because…”
Aren’t you the guy who thought California was going to secede? That’s gold, Jerry. Gold!
That’s definitely one way of looking at it. Nice job!
Maybe we need more Europeans to come over and show them how be more socially acceptable. You know, role models who can teach them how to put aside their white ways and assimilate into the mainstream. Then maybe we wouldn’t have a massive gun problem on our hands, shitheads like Trump in office, and a raging opioid epidemic. Among other issues.
moron1972, you really stepped on your little dicklet in this thread.
It’s been enjoyable watching you fail, Pussums. 
Of course she’s pitted people. In fact, I thought I remembered her pitting me way back in 2000. Turns out I pitted her! This was back when the board allowed joke pittings, of course.
What does this have to do with the subject at hand? Nothing. I just thought Bigs might have a giggle at the memory.
Gottdamn, we’ve overstayed our welcome!