Agreed.
Normally, I wouldn’t comment. But, it’s a Steve Goodman song.
This is a Chicago-based board, isn’t it. Gotta give Steve a plug whenever you can.
 Mighty_Mouse:
 Mighty_Mouse:If this is what anti-Trump looks like, holy shit, you guys are credulous. 
It’s not clear to me if you think that you are talking to me. I said that up until now he had seemed consistently against Trump.
And if he is doing the “third party” dance (as Atasama says) then I will remind him that the third party cannot win. It’s Trump or Harris. And he is in Florida, where his vote will matter.
If you are in fact anti-Trump, then your only actual choice is to vote for Harris. Otherwise, you help Trump win.
Oh, and it’s disingenuous to act like Kamala thinks her job is to troll Trump. Her job now is to win the election. Trolling Trump can help with that, as it forces him to mess up. It doesn’t mean that she thinks it will be her job as President.
That’s just dumb.
If you must know, it’s because I’ve started going to meetings and talking politics with people face to face, and I want to have an informed opinion on the matter. Previously, as I’ve already written, it was my general understanding that Biden and Harris didn’t get along very well. And this is a view that is common among people I know. But it’s not actually based in fact. It’s just been this thing that I always took as given. Until Trump said it out loud last night.
I looked at a few fact checks of the debate. The claim that Biden hates Harris wasn’t in any of the ones I read.
As I wrote in two threads now, I did some cursory searching but only found evidence backing up my pre-existing notion that they don’t get along well. The First Lady reportedly expressing private disapproval of Harris. Aides to Biden, as cited in some tell all book from before Biden stepped down, which I don’t know how to evaluate the weight of, saying the common view of Harris was that she didn’t have what it took. Being sidelined in the first couple years. Not having weekly lunches with the President. &etc. I cited all of these because I want counter-cites.
~Max
Fuck off Troll
Also, “brevity is the soul of wit”
 Max_S:
 Max_S:I cited all of these because I want counter-cites.
Why does it matter? Why do you care? Biden publicly supports Harris. Good enough for me
That was not it. I had hoped you’d say you just took someone else’s post seriously, not realizing it was a joke. You do come off as a bit overly literal in your thinking.
It was a dumb, irrelevant question.
Yes, and most Republicans publicly support Trump. Doesn’t mean many don’t hate his guts.
~Max
Right. But their public support tells us what we need to know about their character
He thinks Trump won the debate. But you believe he’s anti-Trump. I have a bridge to sell you.
This is a guy who is either a staggeringly sociopathic person or has been trolling these boards for years.
He would support returning slaves to captivity. Turning over Jews to Nazis to be exterminated.
If he tricked his sister into agreeing to have sex with him by burying the terms in a 15 page contract to buy his car, he’d sue to enforce the contract.
And there would be SDMB stalwarts saying “Hey, let’s not be hasty with our condemnation, he might be a trifle legalistic, but his brief is a thing of beauty.”
 Mighty_Mouse:
 Mighty_Mouse:He would support returning slaves to captivity. Turning over Jews to Nazis to be exterminated.
If he tricked his sister into agreeing to have sex with him by burying the terms in a 15 page contract to buy his car, he’d sue to enforce the contract.
So, a typical Republican.
Also, over/under that Max posts 1,500 words explaining that contracts don’t work that way?
 Mighty_Mouse:
 Mighty_Mouse:He thinks Trump won the debate. But you believe he’s anti-Trump. I have a bridge to sell you.
No. Again, I said that up until now he had seemed like he was anti-Trump. As in, before he said that.
My first post even says that the new information changes my opinion of him.
If you’re having this much trouble parsing my post, I have to start questioning if you parsed his correctly.
@Max_S people are accusing you of some pretty awful things. Are you going to come in and defend yourself? Because, if they’re right, you’re just a troll.
 BigT:
 BigT:No. Again, I said that up until now he had seemed like he was anti-Trump. As in, before he said that.
I’m saying he’s been transparently disingenuous, and you’ve been either incredibly credulous or deliberately oblivious.
And I mean before today.
 BigT:
 BigT:Max_S people are accusing you of some pretty awful things. Are you going to come in and defend yourself? Because, if they’re right, you’re just a troll.
Uh, if you’re referring to the turn over Jews and Slaves to Nazis/Owners, those are his own statements. He stated, and I’m paraphrasing, that if those events occurred in his presence, he would feel bound to cooperate with the enforcing entities as part of the legal/social contract.
Feel free to re-read the thread and the linked threads.
Note, he did not say he’d do so gleefully, but out of some (IMHO) utterly detached and nigh-sociopathic lack of empathy.
IE Max may or may not be a troll, but he’s evil by most common definitions as discussed in thread - which is more than enough reason to avoid his posts.
 ParallelLines:
 ParallelLines:IE Max may or may not be a troll, but he’s evil by most common definitions as discussed in thread - which is more than enough reason to avoid his posts.
But what if he appears intelligent?
 BigT:
 BigT:@Max_S people are accusing you of some pretty awful things. Are you going to come in and defend yourself? Because, if they’re right, you’re just a troll.
I’m not a particular fan of Max, but nobody has an obligation to come defend themselves in a Pit thread.
Nor does anyone have to come here to defend the indefensible to make yourself feel better about once being like him.
Not directed at you.
 Mighty_Mouse:
 Mighty_Mouse:Nor does anyone have to come here to defend the indefensible to make yourself feel better about once being like him.
If that’s aimed at me, it was about voting in 2016, period. Other than that, Max might as well be an alien from outer space.
If it wasn’t then I apologize.
No, I can certainly see some of my younger self in Max. The rote thinking that insists on considering the world through rigid adherence to “the rules”. The endless arguing over pointless minutia. Taking refuge from moral judgments in pedantic formalisms.
But eventually I grew up.
 Mighty_Mouse:
 Mighty_Mouse:But what if he appears intelligent?
I think I made the point upthread.
 ParallelLines:
 ParallelLines:I’m going to disagree scudsucker. I mean, technically, if you can find a factual subject that has no bearing on social, political or moral issues (not an easy ask I’d say) then it might be worth reviewing with a pinch of salt.
But go through the thread again. The Roastee of Honor picks and chooses what “factual” basis he argues from, and it changes to suit his conclusions, rather than arguing from merit or causes.
So, as a couple of examples, he considers himself a constitutional scholar… unless he feels that the amendment doesn’t apply. Or that territory gains by conquest are fine, As long as it’s before his chosen point of the World War Era.
And that anything done that is legal is fine, despite the moral arguments, again, unless it’s a law -he- doesn’t approve of, at which point, nope, it’s not fine.
So, even if he’s intelligent, because he’s evil, he’ll bend and break his own standards to pull out a win for his own side. So his intelligence is moot - he argues from only the facts/POV/time period he accepts, and even then, ONLY if it adheres to his pre-formed preferences.
IE, he’s evil AND hypocritical. See my prior efforts to get him to acknowledge the inconsistencies with ownership of conquered lands. It’s fine that the US/Canada have ownership of former native lands, because it happened before WW2ish, but anything SINCE is illegal/wrong.
Fuck that guy.