Do horses actually drink corn oil?
Not drink, exactly; they’ll eat it if you mix say half a cup into their grain. Adds extra calories without giving them the carbo high that too much grain will. Nick’s a mouthy guy and when I showed him his corn oil was frozen, he grabbed the bottle and stood there waving it at me while I whipped out my camera. 
Doing stuff like this and this is how he got his nose powdered.
I don’t know what you refer to with “corn” oil.
But I never saw any horse drinking any sort of oil.
As for your poor Beta…
If you did put the poor helpless creature in a cold-water tank, you need to be accused of unwanted fishmurder-caused-by- ignorance-about-its-needs.
Salaam. A
Eddy TD,
You actually do that? Adding oil to their food?
Salaam. A
Aldebaran, oil in this context refers to cooking oil. I add plenty of the type of oil made from corn, walnuts, or olives to my own food myself.
10-to-1, Nathan’s already read David the riot act (“Thou art that fish!”) already, and this pitting is redundant.
Aldebaran, “corn” in American English means what the British call “maize”. You may be thinking of corn as what we call “wheat”. And yes, as this article points out, corn, canola, soybean, or mixed vegetable oils can be and are fed with grain to some horses as a calorie-dense supplement. I prefer to topdress my horses’ rations with flaxseed meal, as it’s less mess for the same effect.
Oil as in petrochemicals is quite another thing. Nor would I offer my horses fishmeal, no matter how protein-rich it is, nor how deservedly sent to slaughter its constituents. 
Mine get now and then linseed on their oats.
I’ve never seen horses eating corn. A missing part in my culture 
Salaam. A
My two horses love corn, whether kernels or the cobs, or even the husks. The linseed is a great source of omega-3 fatty acids. Some people buy the flaxseeds in bulk and grind a ration fresh for each feeding, since horses can’t readily digest the unground seeds. I feed stabilized flaxseed meal since it’s much easier to use.
Over all of human history, many cultures have found many different ways to feed their livestock. I’m grateful to live at a time and in a place where scientific research into animal nutrition has helped make it possible to maintain my 21-year-old horse in robust good health.
What breed(s) of horse do you own, Aldebaran? The easy guess, of course, is Arabian, or Barb. Or do you have Thoroughbred racehorses? I have a Thoroughbred and an American Quarter Horse.
Oh, geez, SnoopyFan – here you start a thread to Pit your evil goldfish, and look where it’s wandered to! <sigh> I’m such a blithering idiot sometimes…
Very well, back on topic: Your wretched murderous finny friends should be shown a frying pan, and some tartar sauce, and told that these objects of doom await them should they ever dare to assault another companion. Perhaps you should allow the algae in their tank to grow and spread until they hover by the surface, glooping their tiny mouths in pathetic wheezes, begging for mercy and forgiveness.
EddyTeddyFreddy, just gotta say it - you’re very cool.
Okay, now that my blatant brownosing is done, this whole thread is making my miss my sophomore year in college fish - Sam and Gus. (Funny, SnoopyFan, I was also in college in WV, and my fish had real names). They lasted the whole year - I got 'em from Wal-Mart. They ended up croaking when I transported then home from college - Sam bit the big one on the trip, and Gus died a few days after.
I didn’t think fish had personalities until I had those two. They were very cool. Don’t be too hard on them, SnoopyFan. They’re just being fish.
Ava
Eddy TF,
At home we have Arabians, Berber and Haflinger. (And a Shetland pony to keep the donkey company.)
We have also thourougbred of Belgian breed and Hannoveran. And one Polish (Shagya-Arabian) which was my horse when at the innocent teenage/student age I did jumping-contests with her in Belgium and neighbouring countries. (Which she loved to do and was not bad at.) She is now an aged lady and must be handled carefully since her frontlegs seem to have suffered a lot. So I don’t ride her anymore since several years. Until two years ago I had there a beautiful Appaloosa (few-spot) as resident exotic (what is exotic to you is normal to me and vice-versa, no?). But surprisingly enough he can’t be trusted when the children would come unattended too close to him. Since I prefer to avoid any risk with them he moves elswhere when they are in Belgium, until they are a bit older and listen when their father says something. (I never despair).
I looked at the pictures of your horse. He seems to be in very good condition. Do you have that freezing cold temperatures overthere that coverage is needed when he’s outside or is it just out of precaution?
Salaam. A
Ah! Would a Berber be the same as a Barb? Related to but not the same as an Arabian? I’m familiar with Haflingers, and at the barn where my horses live we have a miniature donkey and his constant companion, a miniature mare, who’s smaller than a Shetland pony. Are there miniature horses (also known as Falabellas) in Europe? They’re quite popular here. They’re too small for even children to ride, but people drive them, and even barrel race them in harness.
It would be interesting to compare your Belgian Thoroughbred to my American one, to see whether there are any differences. The Hannoverian is a fine breed of Warmblood, and is popular with dressage riders in my area. Do you still do showjumping, or is that a thing of your reckless past? Do you now ride for pleasure, or study dressage?
A friend of mine had a Shagya Arabian, and they are wonderful sport horses. I much prefer them to the over-refined, snake-necked types that win in-hand classes in the American Arabian show world.
Your lovely but not calm enough Appaloosa amuses me. It’s so easy to fall into stereotypes, with animal breeds as with human races and nationalities, yet the individuals in each group can be so very different, eh? My Quarter Horse is indeed as calm as stockhorse breeds (QH, Paint, Appaloosa) are supposed to be. Yet my Thoroughbred is just as easygoing, even though he’s of a breed, like Arabians, that’s considered hot, flighty, and difficult.
My QH, Nick, is now 21 years old, yet still healthy and ridable. He was a show hunter in his early days, but has been a pleasure horse since I’ve owned him (now almost 12 years). Here he is at age 20. He hasn’t changed since then, other than to add some sprinkles of white hair over his eyes. He does have arthritis in his hocks, and has always been sensitive to cold, even in his younger days, so he must be blanketed in the winter. Yes, we do get cold, snowy winters here in Massachusetts. We can expect snow anytime from November through March.
My TB, Ben, is 13, a former field hunter. I do training level dressage with him, and also ride him for pleasure on the trails. He and Nick are buddies, but the creaky old man still bosses the athletic young fellow around.
Moving this to MPSIMS.
Lynn
EddyTF,
Yes, Berber horse refers to those horses that are sometimes wrongly taken for Arabians by people who aren’t that well informed.
I prefer of course my unbeatable Arabians Outsiders often seem to think they are difficult to handle, while it is quite the opposite. They are very sensitive and intelligent and the only thing one needs to do is handle them with care and respect. I can trust them also with the children, but since a child is sometimes very impulsive (and impatient) I don’t permit them to ride them until they are a bit older. (They are for now happy with the Haflingers anyway)
I don’t do any jumpings anymore since my jeep hit a rock that was hiding itself in the desert. It knocked me out for 3 days and did quite a bit of damage to my body (brains were of low quality long before). So I must be careful with my back every now and then.
The Hannover are indeed trained for dressage. I’m not good at it, but a friend of mine is and works with them every time we are in Belgium.
I’ve heard of those mini-ponies, yet don’t know anyone who has one. I’ve heard they aren’t even much higher then my newfoundlander, so that would be a funny sight.
From what I can see on the picture, Nick seems to have still a very good back for his age. I can’t say the same from my old lady. She worries me because her condition isn’t that good at all lately. Everytime I go back home I expect it to be the last goodbye. And a transport and change of environment would not do her good now. So I try not to think about it.
Salaam. A
It’s so sad to see them age and dwindle, as we watch helplessly, isn’t it? Do you have equine dentists (or veterinarians who take care of equine teeth) in your country? She may be losing condition if her teeth need floating to remove sharp edges that are cutting into her cheeks and making it hard to chew. My old horse is helped to stay in good condition by the grain mixture I feed him, which is specially formulated for the nutritional needs of old horses. I also give him supplements that keep his joints flexible and relieve the achiness of his arthritis without the stomach upset that butazolidine can cause. Still, there comes a time when we have only one gift left to give them. It’s very hard to face that, isn’t it?
Of course, for some people that’s asking too much. You cannot handle an Arabian (or any other horse with spirit and intelligence) without respect, and expect the animal to give you its trust and obedience. Anyone who attempts to bully them, or treats them clumsily, will indeed find them difficult.
Here is a link to the website of the American Miniature Horse Association. The Falabella is the miniature horse breed that was developed in South America, and here is the website for that breed.
Which is why you never found Elton John in your tank.
Sheba probably watched Finding Nemo one too many times and figured she could effect a similar escape. Nathan and David caught on to her plan, hobbled and gagged her, then hid the body when she died unexpectedly. Happens all the time in the movies.
:smack: Fish! We were talking about fish! :smack:
A young man of my acquaintance keeps his Bassman in a tank – a juvenile bigmouth bass. Bassman was only an inch or so long when captured but has thrived and grown rapidly in captivity. He’ll be released to the wild next spring. Noah keeps his other fish in separate tanks, since Bassman even at this early age is an avid predator.
Im gonna have to call you on this, Bettas may thrive at 70-75, but they are comfortable at 65 which is what is ideal for Goldfish. Assuming the water is room temp it should be 68-72 which is well within both fish’s range. I see no problem with this other than the words “small aquarium” since goldfish get huge, I generally recommend 10 gallons per fish as a barest of minimums preferably 20.
If you changed the water just before you left, poor lil’ beta could have gotten Ick. Its a fishy disease that rots off fins they look chewed. If its not treated, the fishy gets to play whirlpool in the bathroom.
Sorry, no cite. I don’t Goggle.