Riemann
December 22, 2020, 5:06pm
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Since the response that this JAQing fuckwit deserves cannot be stated in the thread that he’s currently polluting with his willful ignorance, I think his comments need to be consistently referred here.
Well, your entire argument is based on premises that establish ‘necessity’ in unscientific ways and shroud them in science. And in pretty shoddy science at that, as you keep throwing around the term ‘high-risk activities’ without any evidence at all that blanket curfews address those. It should be very patently obvious that two people sitting together in a restaurant are doing nothing demonstrably ‘riskier’ than they would be sitting in a home together or out shopping.
You can take that as one …
But of course, there are absolutely zero studies that show that closing bars at midnight do more to slow the spread than would, say, closing grocery stores. This is where reasoning needs to come in, and judgment, and strategy. All things that are sorely, sorely lacking throughout this whole ordeal.
I’m not sure that’s either here or there, but one thing I do imagine is that those who want to get up close with someone and make out (or worse!) will find a way to do it, before or after 10 pm and inside a public place or not.
There are many other things the decrease in cases could suggest as well. And some that make a whole lot more sense, too, like opening one’s eyes to the very clear patterns of peaks and declines over the course of four to eight weeks that appear…well, pretty much everywhere.
And this continues to be the most anti-science theory that continues to get trotted out there – and by a doctor, not a teetotaling politician! It’s just ridiculous. There’s not a town with a Costco that isn’t having more o…
The last ten days have not been kind to this point of view.
In Los Angeles and elsewhere in the Golden State, a sense of anger with seemingly contradictory lockdown orders is growing along with virus cases , which are reaching new records across the state. It’s a major reversal of fate for the first U.S. state to impose a lockdown in March, a move hailed as a success that kept the state from experiencing a surge of infections and death like what happened in New York. Following the spring shu…
I’m sure that would help too. But at the same time, Congress isn’t the one telling those businesses they must close.
I’m reading there might be some legal backlash in California, with a court determining the state has not sufficiently demonstrated the benefits in closing those businesses. Will be interesting to follow.
Here’s an article about some of the effects in San Francisco.
Thomas personally laid off 52 employees at her two Cow Hollow establishments, Rose’s Cafe and Terzo, and she said other restaurants in the city let go of tens of thousands of workers. She wishes the city had chosen to follow the state’s lead and this would have given restaurants at least two additional weeks to operate, resulting in at least an extra $1,300 in the pockets of minimum wage workers.
“It was unfortunate that it had t…
Some parents in LA are unhappy with they see as uneven application of science.
Ferrer said that before issuing the latest regulations, health officials “went back and forth for many days” about how to handle reports from local parks departments about crowding, children playing without masks and the difficulty of sanitizing playground equipment.
Tara Kirk Sell, a researcher at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security who has focused on risk communication and misinformation during the pan…
Here’s an article that touches on some of those same ideas. It also, to me, continues to paint a picture of a situation – in LA County, at least, but I suspect many other places are not too different – where the public health experts are, again, just flailing. Throwing one thing after another at it, and nothing seems to be working. The article explores some of the possible reasons why.
My problem is that there doesn’t seem to be any science behind it. There’s reasoning behind it, yes I know. A certain type of reasoning, and lots of it. But no data and no studies. No evidence. You know, like ‘here’s how UFOs work’.
Whether he’s right or wrong, he’s certainly not the only one susceptible to bias. (And anyone who doesn’t recognize his or her own is only confirming that for the rest of us.) I’m going to go ahead and put curfews and closing golf courses in that same bucket as flying saucers.
I suspect it’s the good people of your state who will have problems with that. Of which I am not one.