A Delta plane crashed on approach to Toronto Pearson airport.
Landed upside down - belly up, on its roof. Will look for a link, but I’m making supper.
A Delta plane crashed on approach to Toronto Pearson airport.
Landed upside down - belly up, on its roof. Will look for a link, but I’m making supper.
The (early) reports I saw said it landed and then flipped. I’m interested to see if that was actually the case or if it flipped while landing.
Also, here’s the ATC audio:
I just went to TMZ to find the early report I read and they have a video of the crash. It looks like it hit the ground too hard or the rear landing gear either wasn’t down (or locked down) or it collapsed.
Edit: gear appeared to be down, so if it was locked and didn’t collapse, maybe a tail/wing/engine strike. At least one of the passengers said it was windy.
Here’s a link to the story on the AP.
Apparently there were two serious, but not life-threatening injuries. I guess everyone was belted.
Not a clear video but it did look a bit of a hard landing. I didn’t see it bounce but with winds gusting to 45 mph it might have tipped it to the point a wing dug in and that’s always bad.
I believe the technical term is “Total Inability To Sustain Usual Performance”.
Pretty funny.
I am glad no one was killed. It could have ended with a much worse result, obviously.
I’ll just mention, in case it has any relevance, that the general area is currently at the tail end of one of the heaviest snowfalls in years. Yesterday YYZ reported more snowfall in the past several days than in the whole of the previous winter. Yesterday’s forecast was light snow and local blowing snow due to winds.
Just to add to my previous post about snowy weather …
While we still don’t know the cause of this accident, it’s pretty obvious just from looking at the videos (and out my window right now!) that some of the news reports describing the runway as “dry” could not possibly be accurate. Not to suggest that runway conditions were the proximate cause – many hundreds of flights have landed safely in much worse conditions, and this is a huge busy airport with amazing snow-clearing equipment --but just to say that with the amount of snow we’ve had and the winds at the time there is no way this was a summertime runway.
An interview I just saw with an analyst said that speed, vertical descent, and altitude were all normal as the plane passed the runway threshold. But there were strong 45-degree crosswind gusts, and passenger descriptions of the plane apparently “turning sideways” as it landed suggests maybe the “Swiss cheese model” of many wrong things aligning all at once – strong crosswinds, slippery runway, and probably other unknowns we have yet to learn about.
Sounds a little like January, 1999, when Toronto was battered by two winter storms within a couple of days. I think we got about four feet in total, and Mel Lastman called out the Army to help with snow clearing. I couldn’t get to work (I lived in North York and worked in Mississauga), but they let me work from home for a few days.
To keep this on topic, I must ask: was this accident due to weather? On the news tonight, they said that the black boxes were easily retrievable, so we should know something in the next day or two.
I’ve flown out of Lethbridge, Calgary and Edmonton in some pretty horrendous winter conditions. Always safe flights, but weather is always a factor. De-icing the aircraft is often necessary. Might ice have been a factor here?
Remarkable how clearly you can read the logo on the side. There is no bad advertising I suppose.
It seems odd we do not have footage of the plane doing its flip. I would have thought all landings are recorded nowadays.
My office was on the top floor of an office building immediately south of the main E/W runways (6/24) at Pearson for more than a decade and my desk looked directly at the airport. I’ve watched thousands of planes land in worse conditions. If we are good at anything, it’s keeping runways clean and open.
I’m not hazarding a guess to the cause and will leave a properly functioning government with that task.
Actual footage of the landing:
Not useful unless you have a Reddit account, alas.
Hopefully there are other sources publishing that.
Works for me in a private firefox window where I’m not logged in. I had to push through a “Yes, I’m 18” pop up, but that was it. Though, at least in my experience, whether you can do that or you need to actually log in to view a particular video doesn’t isn’t always consistent from device to device.
Interestingly, I couldn’t watch it in a ‘regular’ Chrome window, but in an incognito Chrome window, it did let me.
Not useful advice for mobile, since Reddit insists you use their app for 18+ content.
I’ve run into that as well, however, I think I may have just found a workaround.
I noticed when I tried to click outside of the “open in app” pop up in an attempt to dismiss it, I noticed that I had some player controls (or at least the pause/play button seemed to work) If I click on the ‘full screen’ mode, I can watch the video. My phone isn’t logged in and I don’t have the app.
Sorry, forgot you need account for reddit links. Or maybe it’s beacause it’s NSFW.
To make amends, I’ve dl/ul:
ETA: It touches down at 0:07 mark, there’s flames coming out almost immediately, it only flips on its head at 0:11
Wow. Looks to me like part of the issue was not enough flare (I.e., a “three-point landing” — just fine in a Piper Cub, not so much in a regional jet). A downdrafty gust that affected the front of the plane more than the back?