Please critique my short story.

PDF file (I hope this link works for people other than me!):
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1827500/Gerg%2C%20Singing.pdf

A few words about the story, before you read it. It’s written in a deliberately affected (ie unnatural) style, to achieve a particular effect and ambience (the nature of which should be clear as you read it, I hope!), and I’d be interested to hear whether you find it effective, or maybe even simply annoying! And I hope it’s fairly clear what it’s about.

I have no particular intent for this one, as in a publication market or whatever. I really just wrote it to express the ideas in it, to get them out of my head.

Any honest commentary and feedback suggestion welcomed. Thank you for bothering to read my story.

I’ll mention for others that the story is only five pages - not a huge commitment. And the link worked fine for me. Possible spoilers ahead.

I’m not sure exactly what commentary to give. Other than one or two awkward sentences, nothing stood out as bad or needing changes. Over all, I enjoyed the story. I liked the way it played with notions of the unexpected dangers of things which seem joyful. It gave me a fresh sense of rediscovery of song. I’m sort of glad you avoided the obvious trope of an eclipse.

It wasn’t entirely believable to me though that either the singers couldn’t sing while they work, or that the stores wouldn’t only be shared with those that worked, but I guess that was needed for the story to work. Perhaps in the sequel.

Are you part of the SDMB semimonthly short story challenge?

Thanks for the commentary, much appreciated. In all honesty I didn’t think of the eclipse possibility, but I’m glad I didn’t - as you say, it’s something of a cliche since Rider Haggard.

It was supposed to be that with fewer people gathering food, some was coming in but not enough to last the winter. That is, their previous existence was adequate only with everyone preparing for winter. Perhaps I need to make that clearer.

No, somehow I’d missed that entirely. I’ll check it out, thanks!

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I enjoyed the story–it kind of seemed like you were going for a metaphor about religion and the way it can be both beautiful and destructive. Were you?

The only tiny thing that didn’t work for me (and it really is a tiny thing) was that the word “sibs” was jarring. I would have said “siblings,” or even “brothers and sisters.”

Yes, and thank you for the confirmation of my intent. It started with some contemplation of the connection between religion and beauty/creativity - how much of great European art was religiously inspired? Yet that isn’t necessarily a good thing - there is a down side. That in turn drove the thought that, instead of religion inspiring beauty the reverse could have been the case.

Fair enough, and easily changed. I have to admit I was reaching with some of the language; I was trying to find a form of words that said “unsophisticated” without saying “unintelligent”. This is exactly the kind of feedback that helps me set mood and mind space more exactly, thank you.

Hello, I’m back from a long time off-line - I’ll have a look at your story a little later today, and get back to you.
As far as the SDMB Short Fiction contest goes, we are long over-due for another, and I hope to start one within the next week/10 days. I’ll add you to the list of people who receive PMs about upcoming contests, Askance. Let me know if you’d like to be on the list for the Poetry Sweatshops as well…

Gah! Le Min, can you postpone the contest till after Dragoncon (Thurs 8/30 till Mon 9/1)? I’ve been dying to enter another contest but I am slammed till then!

I find it somewhat unbelievable that a society so based entirely on singing, one where"our people sang before they talked" would be, to a person, so uniformly terrible at singing. Why in the hell would they keep doing it?

Also, your society has no words for the changing of seasons and refers to Winter as the “cold-time” but still has a concept for year, which I found to be incongruous.

Finally, you have this:

The “it” you refer to is the song or the melody. But a melody can’t weep or sob.

I haven’t been able to read it yet (I definitely will when I get home, I just can’t access download sites from work). But this criticism in particular seems excessively nitpitcky. The phrase in question mixes metaphor with personification, but I don’t think that’s bad.

My musings upon first read (this is purely a thematic critique, not grammatical):

It doesn’t make sense that people who sang before they spoke (meaning, to me, that music is a fundamental component of their existence) would describe their own baseline level of singing ability as “ragged wailing and screeching… which was what singing had been for us.” I can understand describing it as such AFTER hearing Gerg sing, in a comparative fashion, but not as a baseline. If that makes sense?

Why is Gerg initially unable to sing more than once a day? Does it exhaust him mentally or physically or emotionally? It doesn’t sound like he merely chooses to sing so infrequently, based on the way you put it: “…and he grew able to do it twice and then three times a day.”

Gerg had no parents, yet was a member of the tribe? How did this come to be? Was he a foundling or a traveler? Did his parents die?

It doesn’t make sense that Gerg and Mana would have gotten together to practice before she stands to sing beside him. Either he’s a loner who ignores the girls and admirers and is only capable of singing three times a day to glorify the sun, or he’s not. I think this moment would be far more beautiful if it were actually spontaneous.
Overall, it’s pretty wrenching. Fantastic plot! I sure as shit didn’t expect a story with such a beautiful start to develop such negativity and depth within 5 pages. Good show! :smiley:

I don’t know how you think of this story, and I don’t know how long you’ve worked at it, so please take everything I’m about to say as being like a fellow writer/editor in a writers’ group workshop. Whatever suggestions I might make (and that’s all they are, suggestions), this is in quite good shape and shows a lot of good thought behind it.

I think you’ve struck a good balance between conveying a different time period through linguistic constraint without making this early tribe sound stupid. I didn’t like ‘sibs’, either, especially as you had already used ‘brothers and sisters’ about a page earlier, but that’s a detail that may have struck you in a later draft.

Another nit-pick detail - first page, sixth paragraph - I’d suggest leaving the sentence at ‘despite his great youth.’ Your story’s narrative doesn’t seem to cover much more than a year, whereas saying ‘his great youth at that time.’ (italics mine) leads me to expect that you are about to tell the story of much more of his life.

I think the most important thing is to stress that Gerg’s ‘heightened’ style of singing is very different from the ‘everyday’ style of singing that is common in the tribe. The line about ‘our singing led to our talking’ is a little misleading - I was expecting something like Wales, where singing is a massive part of the culture and they take great pride in the quality of their music, and their ability to sing anywhere, anytime at the drop of a hat. Perhaps you meant that this tribe speaks a pitch language like Mandarin; if so, I’ve no idea how to describe that in the linguistic constraint you have chosen.

I’m curious about the evolution of his ritual - he sings to the sun once on the first day of no frost, and this develops into singing three times a day during a period in which no one is speaking about his singing. ‘Why?’ is an interesting question that doesn’t get answered. It’s cool - all prophets had to have a first day when they presented their ideas, and the first day of no frost seems like as good a day to thank the sun as any.

Is it really necessary for Mana and Gerg to have practiced? Totally fine if your answer is ‘yes’; I’m just thinking that it would have been challenging for them to sing without being heard by the others, it would have meant that Gerg was doing what was, to him at least, a sacred ritual out of context. Whereas the idea of someone spontaneously joining in seems more interesting to me.

How radical was the choice of the narrator as new Elder? I didn’t get a sense of the narrator being very old, and in fact, being banished for a time for the remark about Erona’s singing, along with the unthinking nature of the remark itself, made me think that the narrator was only slightly older than Gerg.

I don’t know why, specifically, but I had a strong sense that the narrator was a woman. I cannot put my finger on what gave me that sense.

Just some quick, random thoughts after a couple of readings. This is really good work, it makes me curious about what else you have written, and it makes me hope that you will join in some of the SDMB Short Fiction contests in the future.

The “sang before they talked” thing came from some science I was reading a while back, that theorised that singing indeed may have been a precursor to what is now our normal language skills.

As for the previous singing being so bad, that was only realised in retrospect once Gerg started. They didn’t know it at the time - it sounded fine to them as it was all they knew. Obviously I have to make that clearer!

By “changing of the seasons” do you mean autumn and spring? “cold-time” was supposed to be effectively their word for winter, yes. I used the less sophisticated term to produce a certain effect, a mind-impression in the reader of the “primitive” nature of the society. I guess what you’re saying is I should search for an equivalent term for “year”, which is a good thought - although I see I’ve used “year” quite a bit, including twice in the first para. I’ll have to think on that, thank you.

Indeed, it was supposed to suggest to the reader the emotions the new singing induced in the first-time listeners, rather than being literal - that they may be driven to tears by the beauty.

But “wept and sobbed” is redundant, so I’ll reconsider that bit.

Yes, you’re the second to mention that. I did mean that it only seemed that bad after the new singing came, ie in retrospect, but I’ve recast that para a bit to make that clearer.

He knew from his secret practise sessions (which were perforce erratic and infrequent) that his throat had limited endurance, that only the daily “workout” allowed him to extend. Do you think this matters much? If it’s distracting I could lose that bit entirely, i doesn’t matter much.

He had to have no ties, recognise no authority (aside from Erona’s, against which he is struggling). Honestly I didn’t give that a thought, but I’ll kill his parents :slight_smile:

An excellent point. My problem there is that, having set up that Gerg needed to practise before his first public performance, she would too. So then I either have to have her learn on the job, or change her role entirely. Perhaps she could be his sister?

The focus in that part is (supposed to be) the development of harmony.

Well thank you for the very kind words! One of the things that encouraged me to post it here was the reaction of my partner on first reading it, she was in tears by the end. No writer could hope for more, really.

Probably about a year all up. It does take my ideas quite a while to distill into an actual story! Even one this short.

It was inspired by something I read in New Scientist a while back, the theory that everyday human language evolved from singing rather than the other way around. I wanted to throw that in there to provide a contrast with what came, to say something like “we had thought we knew what singing was, as our whole language descended from it, until this new singing came along”.

Their old singing I thought of as like you might hear from untrained children now - they are joyfully happy to be doing it and quite unaware how off-key and tuneless they actually are. The tribe only realises that when the new signing arrives, as a teen might think back on their childhood attempts.

I’m leaving Gerg’s true motivations somewhat open, there is a possibility that the entire thing is a contrivance of his for power, or just get girls, or indeed both.

My thought was they went off to practice somewhere were they couldn’t be heard; indeed they may have had to practise softly, which is why he couldn’t initially sing more than once a day - he hadn’t developed by singing at volume yet. I thought it would be just too unbelievable for him to just burst out in perfect tuneful singing one day, like the cast of a musical! :slight_smile:

Yes, that’s the case and is deliberate. This is a changing of the guard and the establishment of a new tribal practice, no longer passing the leadership by seniority. Elena realises (after her failure to prevail) that the time of rule by the oldest has passed, and by choosing a thinking young person as her successor she is doing the best she can for the group.

Really? That is interesting! In my mind he was male, but I don’t think I gave any clues. If each reader identifies with them as their gender, that’s just fine by me!

Thank you very much for taking the trouble to read and to comment so thoughtfully.

I have no other completed fiction, although there’s another story in the (very early) works. I have written a non-fiction book but it’s in can’t-find-a-publisher-or-agent hell - I’m thinking of self-publishing it on Amazon.

It’s a really, really good story. Seriously great. It’s fantastic that you’re open to criticism, too. Honestly, other than minor inconsistencies in the exposition, it’s just brilliant. I couldn’t find any flaws after that. Enthralling! Enrapturing! More exclamatory adjectives! You should enter it in a contest or something :slight_smile:

Goodness, my lady, you turn my head! That is very kind of you indeed, I was beginning to think I’d killed my own thread (yet again).

Here’s the amended and probably last version of the story, for anyone still interested
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1827500/Gerg%2C%20Singing2.pdf
With encouragement like that I really must get off my backside and resume work on my next one.