Please explain arranged marriage

The only arranged marriage I had any information about involved my American boss and a Filipino woman. They seemed quite happy. The arrangement was through a service of some kind, not a family.

He was a bit of a jerk at work at times- a little pushy, a little demanding, but overall a good guy. She seemed quiet and demure, but I suspect that was for public appearances and that she was more assertive in private.

I think what made their marriage work is that they talked about their expectations for the marriage beforehand. I suspect that many Americans just ‘fall in love’ and get married without alot of thought about what will happen afterwards (WAGeneralizationonmypart).

I tend to agree with this. It absolutely is a generalization, and I in no way mean to imply that everyone gets married this way. In fact, I believe that one of the reasons my own marriage of almost 15 years continues to be so successful is that we spent a lot of time beforehand, discussing expectations, etc. I think that one of the reasons the divorce rate is so high is that too many people think that love is all you need. “Love can overcome anything” is the belief, and it’s untrue and desperately naive. Agreements must be reached ahead of time, if conflict is to be saved later on.

I have no personal knowledge of any of this, but offer a comment made by a teacher in college. The class was discussing this and other social practices, and as expected, we young folks were protesting that an arranged marriage was a terrible and oppressive thing. The teacher suggested that it might make things easier. No agonizing wait for a phone call, no fear of rejection. What, he asked, made us think that if young maiden spotted a likely suitor and asked dear Daddy to get her that one, please, that he would not necessarily do his utmost to make his little princess happy?

Just a thought.

There’s an old episode of Law and Order where they’re on the trail of an Irish Traveler suspected of murder - the lawyers are talking about the fact he arranged his 14-year old daughter’s marriage. The woman lawyer (don’t remember which generation of L&O this was) says something to the effect of “How can they do that, in this day and age?” And ADA Carver retorts “Especially with the stunning success people have picking their own mates nowadays.”

That line somehow stuck in my head. I have a very close friend who went back to India and (reluctantly) got married to a stranger. A couple of weeks after he came back to the US he confided to me that he felt really weird having this stranger following him around everywhere. But as time went on they both put a lot of effort into the marriage, and when I saw them six months later they were madly in love. There was a discernible affection in his voice when he spoke of her. She had stuck pictures of him on every wall in the house. It completely freaked me out.

They’ve been married five years now, and have a beautiful daughter. If all families were this happy the world would be a better place.

I’ll grant you this could be an exceptional instance, and I might be missing the broader picture. But I married for love, and though we’re still very much in love, there are things we’ve had to work out by discussion that this couple never had to. What religion to raise the kids (mine, hers or our current non-practising state), what languages to teach the kid (mine or hers), and so on. Whereas my friend and his wife already shared a social and religious context, and just assumed they would carry on their traditions.

People marry for love when they find they and their prospective partner have a lot in common - tastes in music, thoughts on politics, kinky sex, whatever. They then have to work to find common ground on other issues such as religion and so on. With arranged marriages it’s the other way around - the people have socio-economic and religious context in common and work to find common tastes and predilections. I’m not sure there’s that much of a difference. Also, it’s the social-religious stuff that becomes more important to a lot of us as we age.

Also most Indians I know have very strong familial ties. And not just with immediate family - I’m talking “Big Fat Greek Wedding” scale. In most cases the eldest son takes care of the parents - you are considered a failure if you abandon your parents or put them in a home. Arranged marriages ensure these familial bonds endure, since both partners share these (unusual by Western standards) values. The child, too, grows up grounded and with a sense of his/her place in the world and the larger scheme of things.

So I think I agree with Manda JO the most. I think xash is a bit too pessimistic - every culture has spousal abuse, and it’s sadly too common in the West among couples who supposedly married for love. As for parental pressure, what Western 30-year old woman hasn’t had to fend off her mother’s persistent talk of marriage?

I haven’t alluded to spousal abuse anywhere in my posts. I have only mentioned about parental abuse (not necessarily physical), which is not uncommon.

My apologies, I didn’t mean to suggest you did. I was extrapolating from an earlier comment you made about drunken binges and so on.

What I really meant to say was that since even extremely horrible things like spousal abuse occur among couples who married for love, I feel you may be taking too dim a view of arranged marriage. It’s true that people in arranged marriages sometimes discover things about their spouse that come as nasty surprises; I’m arguing that pretty much the same thing occurs in love marriages.

Wow, that last sentence sounds so muddled. It’s almost morning; I should log off and get to the airport.

Anyway, I’ve often wondered if this whole debate is a matter of the grass being greener on the other side. A lot of Westerners seem to be more tolerant of arranged marriage than some of my Indian friends :slight_smile:

Everyone has provided such informative answers and unfortunately what I wanted to add doesn’t appear to be available (except for a fee!), but I’ll add it anyway.

Several months ago, The Washington Post Sunday Magazine ran an article on an Indian arranged marriage that did an excellent job of explaining the concept as well as many aspects and offered comments from those who had decided against arranged marriage. I wish that I could post a link to it, but the Post’s archives for anything beyond 14 days are for-a-fee; you can search for free, but to retrieve the article will cost. It’s too bad, because the article was very good and even went through the process step by step. I also saw Monsoon Wedding and thoroughly enjoyed it, but there were large chunks of dialogue that did not get translated! (sorry for the slight hijack there :))