Again, I’m not sure why you think pleat = giant poof.
Maybe I exaggerated a bit, but the point still stands: regardless of size, you’re adding unnecessary volume to your chunk. Again, a well-tailored pair of slacks will look better without adding volume.
Wait a minute. Pleats haven’t been around for decades? What, they were just invented yesterday? That’s ridiculous.
The added volume, in many cases, is anything but unnecessary. The aforementioned GQ columnist wears pleated pants with most of his suits to reduce the risk of torn material.
I like pleats in pants on occasion - very Katherine Hepburn, who never looked fat.
Most of my pants currently are flat front. But I have some very classic pleated trousers that I will still wear.
The problem I have with many flat-front pants is two-fold. Most of them tend to “print” in front, either stuff in pockets (yes, ladies, I know I shouldn’t put keys and money in my pockets; I should just walk around with stuff in my hands all the time) and the anatomically poorly placed wedding tackle. And the other problem is that only many flat-front trousers the rise is insufficient and I end up either uncomfortably bunched up down there, accentuating the above printing problem, or the belt line rides down on the hips instead of at the waist. (On the other hand, I’ve found that some makes of pleated trousers have too much rise and force you to pull them up high-waisted, which is equally if not more annoying, although this at least can be addressed by tailoring). I also think that flat front pants tend to look cheap on business suits, and they have no place on tuxedo pants or other formal wear. I have a couple pairs of casual pants that are flat front which look better with a t-shirt or casual shirt, but anything worn with a tie or jacket has pleats, albeit more subtle pleats than the 'Eighties fashions people keep citing.
Stranger
Pleated plants on a guy + sitting down = awkward (NSFWish)
Ah, yes. On women that’s called the “polterwang”.
shrug I don’t know. It sounds like your pants don’t fit, though. Buy a bigger size and take them to a tailor if this is a problem that regularly occurs.
This would be like me, a female, saying, “All of these new, tight, bootcut jeans give me camel toe and muffin top.” No, all the tight, bootcut jeans that don’t fit me give me camel toe and muffin top. A properly fitting pair of tailored bootcut jeans could make me look like a rockstar, so long as they actually fit.
If you have to worry about torn material, maybe you should buy bigger pants.
Seriously- sure, I’m female, but I’ve never had any of my flat front slacks rip or even get worn down over my gut. Is his giant dong stressing the material all day or something?
Yeah, the guy that works at GQ doesn’t know how to buy pants. :rolleyes:
Splitting the seat in a pair of slacks doesn’t happen often, but it sometimes does. Comfort is another reason people wear pleats. They most certainly have functional uses and aren’t unnecessary fabric.
They rip in the seat. Your gut has nothing to do with it.
If you’re ripping the ass out of your pants, it sounds like you need bigger pants. Just because the guy works for GQ, doesn’t mean he’s not making the same mistake that many Americans are. Or are you suggesting one simply can’t have pants that ever fit?
It’s not rocket science. If your pants fit your ass- big or small, they aren’t going to rip to shreds. Even cheap pants. Trust me, I’m no delicate flower myself and I’ve managed to get through life without ripping out the ass of any pair of pants I own. And I say this as a person who likes to wear tight pants and is too cheap to buy “nice” expensive stuff.
:rolleyes: Right back at ya’.
No, the pants fit fine (except for the aforementioned rise problem, which is more a current style that has inadvisably attempted to emulate women’s fashions of a low-rise waist). It’s just that “the equipment” is outlined in front with any flat front pant 'cause guys have gear there. I guess I could buy a much larger size of flat front pants, have the waist taken in, and then let them poof out in front so that they don’t print, but then this seems like it would be even worse that pleats from an appearance standpoint.
Stranger
:rolleyes: right back atcha. GQ and other men’s fashion things have been playing up Skinny Suits for (thin) guys for a bit now. Skinny Suit is another phrase for “suit that is really tight and too small”. So no, it wouldn’t surprise me if he split his pants if he’s wearing a skinny suit that’s too small for him.
He wrote about this as long ago as 2000 or 2001, which was about 7 or 8 years before the skinny suit trend hit. His columns are all archived on their site.
Ok, so let me get this straight: you are geniunely contending that if a person repeatedly rips the ass out of their pants, it’s because he’s wearing flat fronted, non pleated pants, not because his pants don’t fit?
I’m suggesting that pants are sized by the waist, which often has little to do with how much stress your ass puts on the relatively delicate fabric that is common in suit material. The whole point of the column was to show that certain flat fronted pants don’t fit certain body types particularly well, which is why pleated pants are more commonly sold with suits than flat fronted ones.
Can you even fucking read?