Oh great, now I have to dig out my VHS collection & watch Top Secret! AGAIN!
Driven home by the fact that the reporter is actually reporting FROM THE DAMN AIRPLANE!
sweet jeebus what year is it? i clicked on tvtropes and blacked out.
For me, as a botany geek, what bristled me about Batman Begins was that stupid blue flower. He was in the Himalayas, right? Well the most famous blue flower in the world, at least to botany geeks, is from the Himalayas. Ladies and gentleman I give you the holy grail of gardening, the Meconopsis. But no, they had to make up an imaginary flower. Now I’d swallow that if it took place in the desert or the tropics or the tundra, but it took place in Meconopsis’s back frikkin yard! Do a LITTLE homework, OK? Just a little.
Ok, but that’s a different argument than the one you first made, where you said that the air would leak out, but take weeks to do so because the halls are narrow.
You can argue either way whether or not the crew could easily evacuate all the air from the ship. In the novel, they actually argue about trying this, but IIRC decide not to because once they evacuate all the air they can’t replace it, they only have 48 hours of air for their suits, and given that the creature was found on an airless planet to begin with they didn’t have much confidence it would even work.
Not only the other things you mentioned, but this was when Janeane was in her cute years, before the overly skinny and kind of wasted away look now. When the guy loses control of his bike because he’s staring at Uma, I honestly didn’t know what had happened. Uma wasn’t dolled up in the movie, and I didn’t see the conflict about whom to choose.
I know, right? My husband doesn’t think Uma’s hot, so he had the same reaction, and when we figured out that it was the “tall, blonde and skinny = uberhot; brunette with glasses = Hollywood ugly” we were mad. Janeane was definitely cute in that, and it was one of the more egregious examples of that stereotype that I’ve seen.
I remember Mad Magazine’s Raiders story has Indy explaining that the waters miraculously parted in front of him, just like Moses.
I just caught Star Trek: Generations on TV the other day, and I was really bothered by what seems to be a gaping plot hole. When Picard is trapped in the Nexus after Soren blows up the sun, he has the option of going back to any point in time, this time with Kirk in tow. And he chooses to go back in time like one minute before Soren blows up the sun and they just barely succeed.
But what I want to know is, if you can go back to ANY point in time, why not go back several days before that, when SOREN WAS WALKING AROUND ON THE ENTERPRISE and you could just grab him and throw him in the brig?
Oh, TVTropes reminded me of another great example.
Knowing. Otherwise good movie until it all comes together at the end.
So,
The whole movie builds up this premise about aliens using a complicated and sketchy method for communicating the end of the world, the method of which feels suspiciously designed around getting this information to Nicholas Cage, who happens to be an astrophysicist or some such. So you’re thinking, “Great, the aliens can’t come out and directly warn everyone for some reason, probably due to limitations of their technology or a prime directive or something. Makes sense.” Except when Nicholas Cage finally puts all the pieces together, they don’t matter because he’s not worthy to leave Earth. His kid and his kid’s new friend are, though. So you’re thinking, “OK, so they didn’t lead Nicholas Cage to freedom, but they led him to lead these kids to freedom.” Except when it’s all said and done, the aliens just kidnap the kids and take them to the waypoint themselves. Right, so if they could have just grabbed those 2 kids in the first place, why spend 50 years trying to get people to catch on to what this string of numbers means?
That’s the sort of thing I’m talking about. I was really with the movie until the very end, at which point my brain decided that the movie was dependent on a plot which made no sense. Hence the movie didn’t have to happen. And it’s not the same as the “Why didn’t the bad guy just shoot Bond in the first 5 minutes, boom, movie over,” sort of thing. “Knowing” wasn’t trying to sell me an action movie like 2012 was, Knowing was trying to sell me a plot, and it bombed.
I contend that High Tension is a misunderstood comedic/horror masterpiece and that the plot holes are what make the movie great.
But, yeah, plot holes galore in that. The movie makes absolutely no sense if you think about it even a little bit.
It’s not a “plot hole” per se, but I hate when an initial premise turns me off from a movie.
For me, a great example is with The Firm with Tom Cruise. The whole reason why Tom goes along with the stuff is because they have pictures of him cheating on his wife? Sure, they contrived the fight between the plant and her “boyfriend” so Tom could rescue her. But that doesn’t mean he would have to go the next step. So now, because he can’t keep his johnson in his pants, I’m supposed to feel sorry for him and root for him as he seeks to bring the firm down?
Yes, the firm is evil. But had he not screwed up, they wouldn’t have had anything on him to blackmail him with.
Oh yeah - Blade: Trinity. Yes, I know, but for me this was the WORST kind of plot hole, since it betrays the internal logic of the first two, such as it was.
Blade is a hybrid bad-ass, which explains why he can kick so much vampire butt without getting too hurt. In this movie, Three normal HUMANS can also kick tons of vampire ass. Excuse me? There’s simply no way Ryan Reynolds should even be in the same room with a vampire without geting instantly decapitated.
This one drives me crazy. And Picard was in such a hurry to convince Kirk to join him. But hell, he could have lived an entire lifetime of happiness and then grabbed Kirk and jumped out to the point where Soren et al get on his ship, have Kirk do a Kirk-chop, put him in the brig, and problem solved. Sure, that’s not the most exciting idea for a film, but Generations was already pretty boring and stupid, so it really would have been an improvement.
What really pisses me off is that they don’t even bother to make Picard’s decision plausible. This is Star Trek, for Christ’s sake. Fans will buy the most impossible shit in the world if you just wave your hand a little bit and make an effort at explanation. Gah, I hate that movie.
I totally agree. Their explanation behind Guinan’s presence in the Nexus (A fully interactive “echo” that can process thoughts and answer questions? Really?) was inordinately stupid, but eh. At least they tried. No such luck with Picard, and as you say, it’s so damn easy to fix.
Spoil the holes for those of us who haven’t seen it?
I just read the plot summary on wikipedia. Not having seen it, the holes are still obvious. Cliffs if you don’t want to go to wikipedia yourself:
[spoiler]The killer ends up being an alternate personality of the protagonist. When the killer drives into town, the protagonist is hiding in the back of a truck with a witness. This is impossible, because the killer/protagonist would also have to be driving the truck.
The truck stops at a gas station, where killer/protagonist kills the attendents, then the killer drives off in the truck alone. The protagonist follows in a different car. Say what?
Those are the two big ones. The second one can sorta be explained if you pretend the second car that follows the truck is completely imaginary, but there’s no way the plot twist can hold up to the first one.[/spoiler]
Ah, I see.
It sounds like most of the movie is implausible as told, though I think the separate vehicles part was the absolute worst, as most or all of the deaths are seen from concealment of some kind. I put the “hiding in the truck” in with the other hiding scenes. Maybe it’s different because she was with her friend in that case; perhaps one could justify it as her crawling in back with her friend first, then getting in the driver’s seat?
Contact. They just pulled that second machine out of their ass.
Empire strikes back. Luke was training for like… what… the better part of an afternoon before taking off towards bespin to catch up with Han and Leah?
No, no. The WORST part about Contact (and someone correct me if I’m wrong, I saw it in theaters and have refused to watch it since), is that after she “fell right through” the machine and they didn’t believe her that anything had happened, they’re basically like, “Kill the project.” Seriously people, you spent trillions of dollars on this thing and you’re too cheap to spin it up again and drop someone else through? WTF!