I don’t have much to contribute in the OP other than this link. I’m about to take U.S. hist. 102 in fall, so my knowledge is very limited.
Please examine the following website for any inaccuracies. The site linked is definitely left-leaning, and states that Geronimo’s remains were stolen by skull & bones, etc. I’m sure that a few ppl will have something to say against that, but I’m concerned about the other historical details on the site.
I would have posted in GQ but the topics in this timeline will likely lead to some debating.
Thanks.
PS:
when viewing the site, if you click a link in the timeline, there are numerous other links that may seem to stray you from what you intended to read. just use your browser’s back button to return to where you were. sound simplistic but it’s easy to get lost.
What you have tried to do sucks. It’s like a thinly veiled attempt at having other people provide the bones (and most of the meat) for an essay you’ve already been assigned and yet have no interest in. The closest you’ve come to debate is one unsupported assertion that the site is left leaning for God’s sake.
Go away, read and contemplate the issues raised on the site if it is that important to you, come back with a topic for discussion and reference it only when you need to support an idea you have chosen to espouse.
By the way, save your handy hints regarding website navigation for beginners. It’s condescending.
Agriculture began in Japan circa 1400 BC? Obviously left-leaning, what does that have to do with American history? To be fair, they’re not tooo leftie, otherwise they’d be using that BCE thingee, right?
Well, the archeological evidence says that settled agriculture marked the division between the Jomon and Yayoi periods in Japanese history, around 300 BC. (or BCE).
Nice try, OP! You’re never going to learn unless you do your own work. The only person you fool with lame tricks like these is yourself.
I’m not so sure “BCE” is lefty, per se. I tend to use it myself because its usage is increasingly ubiquitous in academia, in biology ( and the sciences generally ) in particular, and I got in the habit.
I suppose one could consider it “PC speak” in a sense, since it really is just the Gregorian calender with religiously neutral terminology substituted. But if so, it’s a pretty mild example and I’ve known some fairly conservative types that seemed to prefer it. Either out of habit themselves or a preference for that veneer of religious neutrality - I think you can definitely find some atheist or non-Christian conservatives that prefer to avoid the Latin “Year of Our Lord” ( personally it doesn’t bother this atheist even a little bit, but like I said, it’s a habit ).
I’m sorry, but what has that website to do with “European history”?
And I’m sorry again, a history student doesn’t use websites as historical sources to write a thesis or whatever he writes. That is unthinkable. If you would do that where I studied the examinators first of all wouldn’t know what they see or hear and next they would tell you to get out and start all over again with your first semester of your first year.
Interesting. This post has nothing to do with essays, homework, or me being lazy, only perhaps my ignorance of european history.
The reason I mentioned euro. hist. in the title is that clearly the europeans have been the driving force in the world for the past millenium. BTW I am mexican.
Searching for some of the facts listed on that website more often than not results in sites that outline a college course curriculum. Either that or a listing of books on a given subject. It would be nice to have time and money to buy & read these books, but we do what we can, and at this point I can’t do that.
These are the types of responses I was hoping for. Bear in mind that the site, titled “The American Empire”, focuses on how european culture has influenced the world, and in doing so, gathers many details about agricultural and political developments.
I don’t understand how this post could be interpreted as a request for homework, when the OP subject states clearly, “Points of contention on this site?” In other words, is it factually correct?
BTW, do any of the previous posters like the site?
As far as I can tell the author did an excellent job of citing his statements. To follow the recommendation of the 1st response in this thread, I should go to the library and check out each one of the books in the works cited list, then verify them for accuracy.
I’m sorry, but what has this website to do with “history”, let be with “European history”?
Quote from the author:
<b>I am an accountant by profession, not a historian, political scientist, economist or scientist, and this essay should to be read with that in mind. </b>
And sorry again: But no history student, let be a historian, ever uses “websites” (let be those of an accountant) as historical source or as a reference to underscore his work. That is unthinkable. If any student does that where I studied, I think the examinators/professors wouldn’t know what they hear or see. And next they wouldn’t know how quickly they would tell that idiot to get out and start all over again in the first year, first semester, first class of the first course. That is: Introduction to Historical Method.
Aldebaran
Clu, the thing is, you haven’t provided any real substance for an actual debate. I looked at the site; it’s a multi, multi, multi-thousand word essay that is, yes, well footnoted and uses a lot of leftist authors such as Zinn, Chomsky and Stannard. It’s homework you’re asking others to do, perhaps not in the literal sense, but it’s like dropping a thousand page book on someone’s desk and asking them to find points of contention in it.
What’s you’re interest in the site? If it’s purely one aspect or another, it’d be better to ask if some point raised in the site is factually correct or what any debates over it are.
Dissonance, I see where you’re coming from. As stated in my OP, I suspected that this post should have gone into GQ just to ask: Is this factually correct?
However, it is probably best suited to MPSIMS, but I don’t know this board that well, and I like the crowd that posts here.
I suppose I am just sharing information. There are many members here that have specialized knowledge about a lot of stuff, and I wanted to get an easy answer about the accuracy of that site. Yes I am lazy in that respect, but you’ve gotta admit that there is a lot covered in the site.
Thanks for the responses.
BTW, regarding the trend of the first few posters…
How is it that I could ask for help with an essay when any person who responded to my post could comment on ANY one of the numerous topics discussed?
Use a little reason before bashing someone with cynicism.
Just how empty do you think my life is that I would want to wade through pages of web text looking for inconsistencies? :dubious:
Tell you what. You read the thing and get back to us with points you find odd, inconsistent or wrong and we might be able to help you out then.
Come on. That is like posting, “Hey guys! Check out this site and let me know what you think about the contents! P.S. To reload a page, hit the ‘refresh’ button at the top of your browser!”
No substance. YOU pick one article to support/debunk. YOU do some preliminary research to support your position, then you will have a debate on your hands. You will be amazed what people will debate around here, but you have to take the first steps.
fine, if the mods feel as you all do, move this to MPSIMS. i felt that there was enough information in the site regarding various world wars & instances of US influence on 3rd world countries to warrant a debate from some.
i e-mailed that link to my sister, and her husband complained that he got lost in the site, and that he didn’t like the way it was organized, hence the instructions.
brutus, how do you feel about the site’s statements regarding the war in iraq? there is much more to the site than the timeline, but the timeline is a good starting point.