They spent mucho bucks reworking the middle school down the block in the name of security, including a new main entrance. Nevertheless, at various points during the day for gym, lunch, and after school, you have kids milling about and pouting out of multiple doors less than 50 yards from the street.
As I go about my life, I periodically think when I see places that people gather with little/no “hardening” - parades, malls, commuter train stations, theaters, sporting events …
Sure, we’ve seen a number of events at schools. But harden them as much as you wish, and a nut will have no problem finding another target. Like airport security theater, it is a way to pour money at a problem, giving the IMPRESSION you are accomplishing something…
Fundamentally I do not want to ask teachers to fight. That’s not their job. I do not want it to be their job. The fact that I don’t trust them to do security isn’t a knock on teachers at all. I also don’t want teachers doing my surgery, you’know?
Let’s put it this way: We had a bajillion cops on the scene and they were utterly useless. Is the starting premise that our imagined Rambo teachers will get significantly more training than cops? Because that sounds flat-out stupid to me. Indefensibly dumb.
Even if I were okay with teachers getting super trained up to be armed defenders of the school, I don’t want them spending that much time not teaching or having time off. If anyone deserves a life, it’s teachers. Stealing time from them so they could go train at the gun range every other week, not to mention the cost of ammunition…
The very concept offends me.
On reread, you know who else I don’t want being armed defenders against active shooters? Surgeons. There are much better uses of their time.
I also don’t want hardened schools and metal detectors and locked doors and all that bullshit. Seriously, what the fuck?!
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I think I’m leaning toward banning all guns at this point. The idea of arming teachers is enough to change my mind on that score, all by itself. If having guns means we have to arm teachers, then sorry, we can’t have guns.
I’ve been thinking this for a few years now. What would it take to have this be a serious consideration? What if a Uvalde level event happened every day or two? What if everyone knew a child who was shot at school?
This was a big problem in this case and I just don’t understand it. Even if these are some kind of special keys that cost a couple hundred dollars, it’s got to be cheaper than things like ballistic whiteboards.
I don’t think I’ve ever met a woman who didn’t complain about this. I don’t understand the clothing industry’s reluctance to put pockets on women’s clothing.
Absolutely. This is an solvable problem, someone just needs to start the ball rolling.
I mentioned this above. There is no record of any of these migrants ever causing any problems. All these alerts are issued by Border Patrol. Maybe they need to change their methods if vehicles are running and ditching them every other day. What they are doing now isn’t very efficient and is having downstream effects that are out of proportion to what they are trying to accomplish.
Please don’t turn this into yet another gun control thread. I think there is one in P&E you can post in. That’s why the title says no gun control or 2nd amendment in this thread.
People are weird. In my school, we’ve had 2 ouut of 6 sinks in the main girl’s restroom broken for years. The stems were just worn out (they were the closest to the door, so the most used). Even in the height of the pandemic, I couldn’t get them replaced. We had I don’t even know how much money for plexiglass, hand sanitizer, metal detectors wirh built in temperature checkers (useless). But stems, to make sure we had enough sinks for everyone? Apparently impossible.
And the reason was simple. Sinks are still under the traditional custodial services, so they didn’t have extra funding. The custodians were overwhelmed installing plexiglass and spraying fancy disinfectants.
I’m sure this was the case there, too. Locks are like, building infrastructure, not security. Hopefully that thinking will change.
Because the glass is so thick, the weight is increased dramatically. Regular windshield glass weighs around 25 pounds. A rank B4 windshield (generally around 20+mm thick) weighs between 150 – 250 pounds depending on the design…
Also, the windows are only a small portion of the sides of the bus. You’d also need to up-armor the sheet-metal body to maybe 3/8" steel. Instead of a 25,000 pound school bus (meat filling not included), you’d end up with a 75,000 pound school bus and a gaping hole in your school budget.
The school bus’s big advantage is mobility: if you’re a moving target, you don’t really need fortifying the way a stationary target does.
Because it saves them a few pennies on material and labor so they make more profit and women have been buying pocketless clothes for a hundred years, why risk that extra profit?
There are those who say women don’t want pockets because it ‘ruins the line or drape’ of the clothes. I don’t think enough women have been listened to on this. Sure, maybe not in an evening dress, but offer us pockets in most everything else. And not fake token pockets, but at least one pocket that will hold a phone without dumping it on the restroom floor.
The problem is that women buy the clothes without pockets rather than the ones with pockets. The industry won’t change until women do. Women don’t want to wear lumpy baggy clothes with lots of pockets and frankly, society would judge them worse if they did. So the industry will change when society does. If I’m conjuring up wholesale changes to society as emperor of the universe, I would first end school shootings so women teachers don’t have to worry about carrying their anti-school-shooter key ring everywhere. Then they won’t need new clothes at all.
I don’t think this is necessarily true. I just can’t find clothes with pockets. And I know the women on Project Runway become orgasmic every time a designer makes a garment with pockets for women.
On the other hand, men can’t get away with carrying a purse, and there are some things that just won’t fit in a pocket. I’m still not sure who gets the worse end of that deal.
I do because there isn’t choice usually. Side by side, with pockets would win every time. Women are not offered functional pockets all that often. That’s a major reason why scrubs for nurses dominates the uniform world, we suddenly had pockets. Cargo scrub pants just made the deal even sweeter.
