We don’t live in your made up “constitutional democracy.” It’s supposed to be a representative democracy, where the will of the people, expressed through the votes of their, you know, elected representatives, enact the laws, not the President.
I’m quite sure that you weren’t happy with President Bush’s executive actions, and it’s likely your head will explode under President Trump.
Representative democracy is only relevant when it coincides with what liberal elites believe. Otherwise it’s a minor obstacle for a judge or the president to deal with.
Only possible because the Feds can tax income. States would be wise to push for a constitutional convention or a new amendment and claw back some of that federal power.
HR-2 covers/over reaches more than just gender bathroom issues.
Washington Post: The law not only reverses a Charlotte ordinance that had extended some rights to gay and transgender people. It also prevents city and county governments from setting a minimum-wage standard for private employers and limits how people can sue for discrimination in state court. And it contains a provision allowing for remaining parts of the law to stand if others are struck down in court.
The fuck? Yes, we do. Our system is run under – hold your breath now – the constitution.
Yep. Just the way the constitution says. You’re sure you’ve never heard of it?
Correct on both counts.
Not on the second one, Trinopus. There isn’t going to be a President Trump, so any Exploding Head Syndrome you experience will necessarily arise from some other cause.
Our country is a republic.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
Where’s your cite that it is a “constitutional democracy”, or did you make that term up?
You don’t know that. Please stop baiting other posters.
Please note, that was my suggestion as a poster, as I am not in any way shape or form a moderator.
Hate to tell you this, but the courts interpret the law. They don’t make it. If you don’t like that, feel free to harangue your legislative representatives into passing a Constitutional amendment.
The courts have interpreted the law, and you don’t like that either. Sorry about that.
In the instant case, it’s not the courts interpreting law, it’s the President attempting to issue law by divine fiat.
Trust me, you won’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot.
I completely agree–and this is exactly why I think the social “right” has made a serious strategic error here. The NC law, and the people and rhetoric around it, are just too similar to the anti-gay faction a few years ago. They are making previously uncommitted, even unlikely, folks into trans allies. At least, that’s what I’m seeing.
It nice you think the President id a god but he’s a human being.
The executive order is not enforceable, it only threatens to withhold Federal funding.
The states are free to reject such funding if they wish and spend their own money as they see fit.
Strangely enough, I don’t see that letter being recorded in the law books. You also seem to forget (or gloss over) that it didn’t come out of thin air; it was in response to questions by schools and districts regarding the issue.
Don’t worry, the courts will have the explicit chance to interpret everything involved here. So sit back, turn down your paranoia from 11 to, say, 3, and let them do their jobs.
Then you can moan, bitch, and complain about how unfair it is that your philosophical cohorts can’t institutionalize discrimination and get away with it anymore.
Well, I certainly hope you’re right. That said, I think “this is Jane and Jill. They’ve been living together and in love for 50 years. They’re adorable! They look just like your mee-maw!” is a much easier sell than “this is Jane, who used to be John, and would probably make you uncomfortable if you met him/her (because you don’t quite get how the pronouns work). Now let’s discuss what bathroom he/she should use.”
We won’t even discuss that, we’ll talk about how the Great Transgender Conspiracy is trying to sneak into bathrooms and cause psychological distress to non-transes with their mere presence.
Well, they will, anyway. Quick, lock up your children so they don’t see the problem that doesn’t exist!
Interpretating the constitution or law to get whatever desired outcome one wishes is, practically speaking, making law.
You display such a deep knowledge of the judicial system! Which state bar do you hold a license from?
Sorry, Johnny, but the ruling is final. A lower message board has already made it clear that Title IX doesn’t cover gender identity. Until a higher message board overturns that ruling, we’re stuck with it. Unless, maybe, random posters’ ill-formed opinions have no bearing on actual law…
Nobody I know in North Carolina (or elsewhere) was concerned about anyone creeping up on them in bathrooms before this law. Now they’re wondering if some self-appointed gender policeman is going to make a scene.